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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:21 pm
by Minimalist
Beags,
From the same reference, Pg 76.
Biography of Methen (footnote c)
170. This is the earliest biography which we possess, ancl
it clearly betrays its primitive character. It is impossible to
determine with certainty the succession of the parts distributed
on the different walls, and the language is so bald,
abbreviated, and obscure that some of the narrative remains
unintelligible. Apart from the fact that it is our earliest
document of the kind, and the only one from the Third
Dynasty, the biography is especially valuable because it
deals with the geography and government of the North,
narrating RIethen's activity in the Delta, of the administration
of which at this earl$ period we otherwise know almost
nothing. The narrative tells of his gradual rise, from a
beginning as scribe and overseer of a provision magazine,
until he governs a considerable number of towns and districts
in the Delta. He also obtained in Upper Egypt the
rule of the eastern part of the Fayum and the Anubis nome
(Seventeenth). He was liberally rewarded with gifts of lands,
became master of the hunt, and tells us the size of his house,
with some account of the grounds; all of which, from an
age so remote, is of especial interest. He died in the reign
of Snefru; all his affiliations were with the families preceding
Snefru, and he was naturally buried beside the terraced
pyramid of Zoser, of the earlier part of the Third Dynasty.
c From his mastaba-chamber, found by Lepsius at Sakkara, and now in Berlin (Nos. Irog, 1106); published by Lepsius in Denkmiiler, 11, 3-7,120, a-e; Schaefer, AeRyptische .Inschri/ten aus dem Koniglichen Museum zu Berlin, I, 68, 73-87; Sethe, Uvkulzden, I, 1-7.
Breasted seems to have some difficulty deciding if Sneferu was 3'd Dynasty or 4th but it doesn't really matter. In either case, he predated Khufu.
So once again we are treated to the example of a minion having his life story on the walls of his tomb but the boss-hooter lies in obscurity?
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:43 pm
by Beagle
I haven't read this part yet, do you know who this fellow is that rose from a scribe to a high official? Anyway the point is well taken about the tombs.
When you get a chance, look at the Inventory stele translation picture, the first one. There you can compare the heiroglyphics against the English version. There are two representations of pyramids there. One means pyramid, and the other one refers to Khufu. Notice the difference.
My posting will be a little sparse over the holiday plus I'm having a wedding anniversary. So my time is limited.
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:47 pm
by Minimalist
Will do.
My anniversary is coming up soon.....37 years.
If I'd murdered someone in New York I would have gotten out in 25!
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:09 am
by Frank Harrist
I'll bet the sex is better being married than in prison.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:27 am
by Minimalist
At first..........
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:59 pm
by Minimalist
When you get a chance, look at the Inventory stele translation picture, the first one.
Which link do you mean?
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:00 pm
by Beagle
http://www.kennyzen.com/ae_inventory_stele.htm
This one. Scroll down to the part that says Right Side and compare. This stele popped up the other day from one of the posters at maat and thanks to Doug for bringing it over.
This isn't what we were looking for but it's the best we're going to get I think.
* It doesn't look like I should have brought up the anniversary thing.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:09 pm
by Minimalist
I see two symbols that look like pyramids....well, to be fair, one looks like a traffic cone.
Khufu's name would be in the cartouche.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:16 pm
by Beagle
OK. When I have more time let's go over the possible meaning of the name Khufu. I think it's both a name and a title - possibly.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:30 pm
by Minimalist
I seem to recall that the full name is Khnum Khufu...meaning Khnum protect me, or something like that.
Of course, pharoahs seemed to have more than one name, too.
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:28 pm
by Beagle
It's been a long time since we posted here in FOTG. I've been looking through the book trying to find where we got to, around Ch. 35 I think.
We have a few url's in here that are in a foriegn language. Google has a feature called language tools. By clicking on it one can see right away how to use it. It translates entire web pages.
Checking the book - I'll post on it pretty quick.
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:43 pm
by Minimalist
This must have been buried five pages back?
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:50 pm
by Beagle
Yeah, and it had cobwebs on it.
You've probably read Colin Readers article on the Sphinx. He makes a very good argument that the causeway at Giza is as old as the Sphinx, meaning that the structure that leads to the pyramid - is older than the pyramid!!
I wonder what it was leading to, if not to Khafres' pyramid?
Foreign Language
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:51 pm
by Cognito
We have a few url's in here that are in a foriegn language. Google has a feature called language tools. By clicking on it one can see right away how to use it. It translates entire web pages.
Beags, try Marduk and me first. We can write in a few different languages and swear in more!
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:53 pm
by Beagle
Thanks Cogs. I can get by in Latin and Spanish. My German and French is sub-par. But this google feature is really easy.
What languages do you speak?