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kbs2244 wrote:None of them supply the kind of moral compass I would want for my kids and grand kids.
I guess age and experience does change your prospective.
As we have mentioned n other threads, there may be some things you would rather not know, and some experiences you wouldn’t what your worst enemy to have.

Jeez......!

Thanks KB. Up until now, I didn't think there was anything wrong with my moral compass.

Still...I expect it would explain a lot.

But what I meant with some of them - e.g. Bonfire of the Vanities - is that they are incredibly formative books that serve as a warning, not as a role model.

The books I chose are written by incredibly brilliant writers who have enough poetry in their souls to be able to break down our psychic barriers and hold up a very potent mirror to us all, to show us where we're at as a society - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is another prime example of that.

Sometimes, that's far more effective and life changing on a deep cellular level than something like the Ten Commandments.

The books I chose are written by incredibly brilliant writers who have enough poetry in their souls to be able to break down our psychic barriers

I noticed that Fanny Hill didn't make your list. That was a big one when I was growing up.

Ah...was that a formative book for you, Min? Did you find stimulating and uplifting?

Anyway. back to a fresh water flood a long time ago.
It did not seem to have a very long impact.

Or was that another thread?
After being out of the loop for so long, I am confused!

Ishtar wrote:Ah...was that a formative book for you, Min? Did you find stimulating and uplifting?

Yes. Yes.

About red ochre:Is it a coincidence that Adam means in Hebrew red?

To quote Josephus:"This man was called Adam, which in the Hebrew tongue signifies one that is red, because he was formed out of red earth, compounded together; for of that kind is virgin and true earth"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_ochre

The clay used to produce red ochre is thought to be the "red earth" from which God created Adam in the Book of Genesis. In fact, the etymology of the name "Adam" is ancient Hebrew for "man of red earth."[citation needed] Red ochre can be found in great quantities in the mountains rimming the river basin where archeologists place the biblical Garden of Eden[citation needed], now in modern day Iraq[citation needed]. For the early writers of the Christian Bible, one can imagine the vibrant red color of this natural clay evoking the color of human blood[

The connection with blood may have been around a lot longer than the Bible.

Is there a red ocher source near Caral?
It’s age and location bring up the question of diffusion along the sea currents from the Western Hemisphere to the Eastern, instead of the traditional view of Eastern Hemisphere to Western.
The crescent may have been fertile, but was it original?
Was Adam from Peru?

I thought "Adam" meant "man" in Hebrew?

Beagle wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_ochre

The clay used to produce red ochre is thought to be the "red earth" from which God created Adam in the Book of Genesis. In fact, the etymology of the name "Adam" is ancient Hebrew for "man of red earth."[citation needed] Red ochre can be found in great quantities in the mountains rimming the river basin where archeologists place the biblical Garden of Eden[citation needed], now in modern day Iraq[citation needed]. For the early writers of the Christian Bible, one can imagine the vibrant red color of this natural clay evoking the color of human blood[

The connection with blood may have been around a lot longer than the Bible.

Beagle -

Simply can't resist the double pull of red dirt and the palindrome.

"Madam, I'm Adam."

How could either exist without cognition?

john