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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:41 am
by gunny
Been in some wars---strangely, some have fun exciting aspects, mostly are stupid. There wpold be no wars without the politics.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:47 am
by marduk
no wars without religion
you think there would be a war in the middle east right now if the entire population were methodists ?
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:08 am
by Minimalist
You are both right.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:13 pm
by Frank Harrist
Yep. Go into any bar and start talking religion or politics and somebody's gonna get pissed off. So I guess what that means is that our leaders, worldwide, have the mentality of drunks in bars. I wish bush was even that smart.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:38 pm
by Minimalist
Indeed.
It's the one thing that Marx never understood. Everything is not about economics.
People are too goddamn irrational for that!
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:45 pm
by marduk
Everything is not about economics.
tell that to Sitchin
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:47 pm
by Minimalist
I've never had the pleasure of reading any of his stuff.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:50 pm
by marduk
you should
its good comedy
any lover of sci fi would enjoy it
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:26 am
by ReneDescartes
Sorry Min
Obviously you've never read Marx .Everything is about economics .Starting with the hunters-food gatherers .In history his views are widely accepted .I suggest you read him first before criticizing .
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:34 am
by Minimalist
I have read him, or at least enough to get the idea, but I think he overgeneralizes.
People are willing to slaughter each other for lots of stupid reasons. Sometimes, the stupider the better.
But they are not always motivated by economics.
Hell. We have a political party in the US which manages to get people to vote against their own economic interests with regularity by distracting them with nonsense.
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:07 pm
by Beagle
http://www.ferco.org/ferco_pyramids.html
Archaeologists and authorities scoffed when a local newspaper published an article claiming to have discovered mysterious step-pyramids on the island of Tenerife. Just more agricultural stone terraces they said, such as are common throughout the Canaries.
But Thor Heyerdahl thought differently. Dr. Heyerdahl, who has done extensive research on the pyramids of Tucume in Peru, was intrigued by photos of the site, and on visiting the valley of Guimar to see for himself, he was no longer in any doubt. These were neither terraces nor random piles of stone cleared by the Spaniards, as some had tried to explain them away. They were painstakingly built step-pyramids, constructed according to similar principles as those of Mexico, Peru, and ancient Mesopotamia
Getting back to Thor Heyerdal......
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:20 pm
by Minimalist
that they might have been constructed by the early Christian conquistadores as a time measuring device to know when to celebrate the Catholic festivities of St. John
Wow....talk about being desperate to maintain orthodoxy! The conquistadoes never did that much work in their lives....except for slaughtering Indians.
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:30 pm
by Beagle
Later I'll get on Google Earth and get an idea (hopefully) what the Canaries might have looked like before the sea level rise.
I had read something about this a long time ago and had forgot that the Northwest area of Africa was earlier inhabited by caucasians.
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:39 pm
by marduk
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:28 pm
by Minimalist
The dancing scenes remind me of some Jewish weddings I've been to.