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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:36 pm
by rich
Don't forget too - by that time they finally had the power of Rome too.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:19 am
by Minimalist
rich wrote:You forget they call themselves Israelites. They already managed to insert themselves into the "fold".
Outside of the OT we have no clue what they called themselves. The indication from the Tel Dan Stele and the Mesha stele is others called them the House of Omri. There are no inscriptions.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:27 am
by Ishtar
rich wrote:Don't forget too - by that time they finally had the power of Rome too.
Hmm .... I'm really addressing another point, Rich.
If the OT is primarily a PR document cobbled together by the Tobias's Madison Avenue crew, it's a pretty piss poor one, in my view.
Dat's all's eye's a-sayin.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:11 am
by seeker
Ishtar wrote:I was thinking about angel names, and then realised that they all end in el - Gabri-el, Micha-el, Zadkiel, Rapha-el, Sammu-el and so on. So could this mean that the angels' names are earlier than Yahweh, that they are the messengers of El?
I always found the name Mica-el very interesting. Mica is another form of Mitra. There are so many parallels though between Zoroastrian angelology and the later Jewish version that there can be no doubt where the concept came from.
Didn't someone here refer to Ahura Mazda and the seven sparkles? I like that expression.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:33 am
by rich
Yeah but I kinda think Thales had something to do with it somehow.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:44 am
by Minimalist
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:59 am
by rich
I've got an old book on it burried someplace over here but I'll be damned if I can remember where. Been a lot of years since I read it. Maybe I'll try to dig it out again or get a new one.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:08 am
by Minimalist
I ordered it....where would I be without Amazon? Also pre-ordered Niels Peter Lemche's latest effort.
Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:30 am
by seeker
I highly recommend Mary Boyce. I don't agree with all of her conclusions but her research is solid.
Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:25 am
by Minimalist
It's on its way. Will give us something else to discuss, seeker.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:49 am
by Minimalist
In mid-June a web site will be set up by the team excavating at Megiddo.
http://digmegiddo.wordpress.com/
It will be run by George Washington University students under the direction of Eric Cline.
It joins the existing blog by Aren Maier at Tel es-Safi (Gath,)
http://gath.wordpress.com/
The Dark Side
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:51 pm
by Minimalist
of Syro-Palestinian Archaeology.......
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/988803.html
Dozens of skeletons from the early Islamic period were discovered during excavations near the Temple Mount, on a site slated for construction by a right-wing Jewish organization. Contrary to regulations, the skeletons were removed, and were not reported to the Ministry of Religious Services. The Israel Antiquities Authority termed the incident "a serious mishap."
A "serious mishap?" If the Waqf had removed Jewish skeletons in this manner there would be cluster bombs dropping on Amman.
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:05 pm
by kbs2244
I would imagine things are a bit tense in that part of town at the moment.
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:09 pm
by Minimalist
You have a talent for understatement, kb.
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:09 am
by seeker
That's the kind of news that never gets reported here in the US. People here in the US, restricting themselves to US media, have no clue what is going on in Israel.