Noah's Flood...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:05 pm

here is the story and some pictures--found it on the website after getting past the error.

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/secure/ ... icleID=813

Unfortunately, I also expect that Dr. Cornuke will be venomously attacked by both Christians and non-Christians. His discovery will greatly distress evolutionists who do not want the story of Noah and a worldwide flood to be verified

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:25 am

In the fall of 2005, Ark Fever by Bob Cornuke was released.

And it obviously has touched off a firestorm.....especially since no one outside the most lunatic fringe of bible thumpers has ever heard of it.

His discovery will greatly distress evolutionists who do not want the story of Noah and a worldwide flood to be verified

I'm sure as hell not going to lose any sleep over that claim.

Essan · Post by **Essan** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:04 am

Leona Conner wrote:Welll guys, get ready for another round of objective thinking. According to Good Morning America today, some archeologists fromthe Bible Archaeology Search and Exploration (B.A.S.E) Institute, a Christian archeology organization dedicated to looking for biblical artifacts, has found THE Noah's Ark.

The good part is that they found it in Iran's Elburz mountain range. Considering that Iran was once Persia, the Epic of Gilgamesh comes to mind, especially since so many of us feel that is the source of the Noah's Ark story.

Actually, they found a basaltic dyke - as is clearly shown in their pictures. How you mistake igneous rock for petrified wood I'll never know, I guess it takes an awful lot of faith.....

Story and pictures here

(And yes, I know they said they sent samples of the 'wood' off for analysis. Doesn't change the fact it's still an igneous intrusion. 100% guaranteed not to be Noah's nor anyone else's boat. You can believ all you like, but it doesn;t change the truth)

Oh, and as any reputable Christian or Jewish biblical scholar will tell you, the Noah's Ark story in Genesis is a mis-mash of 2 different accounts (hence, for example, the conflicting orders regarding how many pairs of clean animals to take on board

) When it was compiled around the 8th century BC they presumably didn't know which was the true one so iincorporated both, just to be sure.

It was the same with the Creation story.

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:01 am

Cheers, Andy...

How you mistake igneous rock for petrified wood I'll never know

For that matter, how dumb do you have to be to think that wood could petrify in just a few thousand years?

I guess it takes an awful lot of faith.....

Or drugs.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:37 pm

Oh, and as any reputable Christian or Jewish biblical scholar will tell you, the Noah's Ark story in Genesis is a mis-mash of 2 different accounts (

you better say non-christian scholar not christian and as to reputable i would put that in doubt also . and no it is not a mish-mash of 2 accounts. that is only what non-believing scholars want you to believe.

Actually, they found a basaltic dyke

i would like to know more about that as that seems to be a more plausible answer. i for one do not need to have the ark found to prove the story true or that God exists. there is plenty of other evidence available supporting the biblical record.

For that matter, how dumb do you have to be to think that wood could petrify in just a few thousand years

about as dumb as it takes to believe the fairy tales that evolutionists spin.

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:40 pm

about as dumb as it takes to believe the fairy tales that evolutionists spin.

This coming from a guy who believes in talking snakes, virgin births. walking on water and the sun standing still in the sky.

You have a long way to go before you can cast aspersions at others.

Leona Conner · Post by **Leona Conner** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:55 pm

Worldview Weekend.

Another Christian "non-profit" organization with an agenda. And we are expected to believe them. Need better.

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:05 pm

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:27 pm

i do not know much about either organization and i am taking this 'discovery' with a grain of salt. the pictures weren't conclusive and i would like to know more about the formation essan mentioned.

the picture is old now.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:41 pm

For those with strong stomachs....and who are able to repress their gag reflex... here's a video of one of these Creationist Morons explaining how man and dinosaurs lived together....on the ark!

Creationist "science" apparently involves quoting the bible rather than any sort of research but this thing has to be seen to be believed.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... +evolution

As comedian, Lewis Black, points out...."these people watch the Flintstones and think its a documentary."

The whole video is two hours long but five minutes of this drivel will probably cure you of ever thinking that rational discussion with a creationist is possible.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:05 pm

The whole video is two hours long but five minutes of this drivel will probably cure you of ever thinking that rational discussion with a creationist is possible.

i have bad news for you then...this is a part of 7 seminars he gives and all are long. i know about this guy and though he makes a good point from time to time, he is not very credible.

his personal life undermines anything good he could do. it is another shame.

Creationist "science" apparently involves quoting the bible rather than any sort of research but this thing has to be seen to be believed.

depends uon the research. it is a lot harder to stomach the thought that it took millions of years to do something and it is even harder to believe that such evidence would still be in existence millions of years later. it is so much easier to believe that God did it than what evolutionists 'probably ' cpme up with.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:59 pm

YOu don't have to worry....I won't be listening to the rest of them.

I understand that this bozo is an embarassment to you people although in a certain sense one has to give him credit for standing up there and making a complete goddamn fool of himself in the interest of bible-thumping. He doesn't try to weasel out of the silliness the way you do.

He stands there for all the world to see and says: "I'm a bible-thumping asshole and how do you like that." Probably explains how Bush got elected.

it is so much easier to believe that God did it

If you have an IQ in the low double-digits, I suppose.

BTW, I thought I was kidding when I posted Lewis Black's little joke.

Turns out I wasn't. There is another bible jerkoff named Carl Baugh who... well....here's a clip that speaks for itself. Hard to believe that there are people like this walking around loose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIZg7S3K ... ed&search=

ReneDescartes · Post by **ReneDescartes** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 4:46 pm

I've read about half of the posts in this topic .I didn't know the situation in the US was so difficult for the scientific community .Hard to believe people like archeology realy exist .My sympathy to all those defending science .Am I glad we don't have to dealwith creationists here in Europe.How did things got so bad in the States ? How did it got so far that you realy have to debate the existence of Noah's arch at all.On different oocasions I remember the claimsthat Noah'sarch were discovered in Turkey,Armenia ,etc.I honnestly thought only a few fundamentalist baptists would get involved in this idiotic errance just as you would only find a few idiots willing to take the Holy Graal
errant serious .Clearly science is under a widespread attack from the cuckoo asylum .My deepest gratitude goes to minimalist,frank and allt hose willing to confront an opponent I certainly wouldn't try to convince as from the first posts made it is clear you can not reason with fundamentalists .Try convincing Bin Laden for a change ,probably easier .

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:05 pm

rene, that is such total crap that it is not worth resonding to.

There is another bible jerkoff named Carl Baugh

i know about him as well. it is no secret that many creationists have little knowledge on what they are talking about and some even get their credentials under suspicious circumstances.

the one thing you have to deal with, even though the ark may be a geological formation, they did find sea shells and other evidence from the ocean where it could not be unless a global flood hapened.

the evidence is there, you just need to open your eyes.

Leona Conner · Post by **Leona Conner** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:43 pm

Rene, actually I think it would be easier to convince Bin Laden to change. He and Arch are very much alike, kinda like twins, going through life with blinders on. Even though Arch lives in Korea, he is very much like a small portion of our society that is extremely fundamentalist. Although they are few, they are very well organized and boy are they vocal. So it appears that they speak for the majority, where in actuality they don't.

Don't let the fact that Arch refuses to respond to your comments, he refuses to respond to many comments made. You see if he has to come up with an answer other than "it's in the bible" or a quote from some Christian author, he's lost.