dr. schoch and his contribution to archaeology

DougWeller · Post by **DougWeller** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:42 am

Does Dr. Schoch discuss the destruction of the libraries at Alexandria or Jesus? If he does, let's discuss what he has to say about them and the evidence he uses (if it's archaeological and not textual of course).

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:44 am

Doug, why did you inject discussion about the libraries at Alexandria, and later say that is off topic?

DougWeller · Post by **DougWeller** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:10 am

Genesis Veracity wrote:Doug, why did you inject discussion about the libraries at Alexandria, and later say that is off topic?

That's twice you've made that claim. If you can't even get something so simple right, why should we believe any of your more complex stuff?

Starflower · Post by **Starflower** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:16 am

Beagle wrote:http://www.robertschoch.net/Bosnian%20G ... Dowell.htm

This is why we like the guy. No politics, straight up, and scientifically sound.

I like the fact that he is also kind and I thought he made some good suggestions at the end.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:28 am

"Alexandria had several libraries. The Royal Library didn't exist.......," your words Doug.

DougWeller · Post by **DougWeller** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:59 pm

Genesis Veracity wrote:"Alexandria had several libraries. The Royal Library didn't exist.......," your words Doug.

What more proof do we need that you don't care about the evidence?
Marduk and Archaeologist had already mentioned the Library oF Alexandria, it wasn't me who 'injected' discussion about the libraries at Alexandria.

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:12 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but since Alexandria was built by Alexander the Great around 333 BC it seems logical that any library therein constructed would be after 333 and of Greek rather than Egyptian orientation.

Let's use the traditional date for the construction of the Giza plateau c 2450 and it is quite obvious that any papyrus 'plans' would have already been over two millenia old and probably looking somewhat worn...if they existed at all. The whole issue seems rather moot.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:12 pm

Doug, the point is, if you thought it was off topic, then you would have said so then, rather than having added to what you now say was off-topic discussion, are you schizophrenic? (And you call me a liar, wacky.)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:14 pm

Doug, tell min that's off topic, or did you change your mind again?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:25 pm

That's twice you've made that claim. If you can't even get something so simple right, why should we believe any of your more complex stuff?

i introduced the aspect of the contents of the alexandrian library because i felt it germane to the point about what records the egyptian did or did not keep.

it stands to reason that every civilization would keep 'how to' books so successive generations would learn how to build properly. i doubt if they kept the actual blueprints their but instruction manuals would surely grace their shelves

Does Dr. Schoch discuss the destruction of the libraries at Alexandria or Jesus? If he does, let's discuss what he has to say about them and the evidence he uses

i do not recall if he did or not. i doubt that that thought would have occurred to him as it would distract from his analysis of the date of construction.

i am presenting this as the discussion has prompted me to think of such a thng. my book on ancient libraries states:

"The rolls in the main library totaled 490,000, in the daughter library, 42,800. this tells us nothing about the number of works or authors represented...." pg. 36 'Libraries in the Ancient World' by lionel casson.

so i am thinking that it would be of great value to egyptian history to have some record placed in the library to confirm construction of the pyramids and the sphynx.

i am not trying to change the subject or go off topic but broaden the scope of it so we do not miss anything in our discussion of this subject. since as k.a. kitchenhas said:

"...90% of the egyptian papyrus have been lost..." {reference in another thread}

we can safely conclude that there must have been something recorded at some time and placed in a 'secure' location for safe keeping. we are just not privy to that information.

p.s. though minimalist makes a good point, it precludes that special care may not have been taken to preserve ancient records. this is something i would highly doubt, given the nature of people who want to preserve what they think is important. also that line of thinking omits the possibility of scribes or workers employed to copy such documents so the information wouldn't be lost for all time.

DougWeller · Post by **DougWeller** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:42 pm

Genesis Veracity wrote:Doug, the point is, if you thought it was off topic, then you would have said so then, rather than having added to what you now say was off-topic discussion, are you schizophrenic? (And you call me a liar, wacky.)

Now that you've had to admit I didn't introduce the topic, what part of "I got distracted several posts before that. I didn't help keep it on thread, mea culpa. My lapse is no excuse for keeping off topic, and it's drifited a long way." do you not understand? or should I shout? I GOT DISTRACTED AND DIDN'T HELP KEEP IT ON THREAD! Is that clearer?

I still don't see how discussing old libraries helps us with the original topic.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:20 pm

I still don't see how discussing old libraries helps us with the original topic.

ok so lets get back to the original topic
who sees the library at Nineveh as crucial in world history

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:34 pm

Doug, funny that Alexandria library talk was just hunky dory with you 'til I made a point, then all of a sudden it was "library bad, back to topic," a "lapse" as you say, how conveeeeeeeenient.

Like archae saying that, sometimes, what he says, he really doesn't mean, you guys are very, shall we say, fickle (to be kind).

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:39 pm

you guys are very, shall we say, fickle (to be kind).

its not that at all Jim
they just don't value Anthropology as much as I do
i understand you and your position and its totally valid
if thinking like you do causes people to obey the ten commandments then i see it as a good thing as it will reduce crime rates at the very least
but you know I'm going to hell and i just can't help myself
see my neighbours ox is such a pretty little thing..........

DougWeller · Post by **DougWeller** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:44 pm

Genesis Veracity wrote:Doug, funny that Alexandria library talk was just hunky dory with you 'til I made a point, then all of a sudden it was "library bad, back to topic," a "lapse" as you say, how conveeeeeeeenient.

Like archae saying that, sometimes, what he says, he really doesn't mean, you guys are very, shall we say, fickle (to be kind).

Jesus christ! You didn't make a point, you made a facile comments about one of your beliefs that you can find all over the nut boards. Nothing I say will change your mind, you are only after publicity. I know the issues, look at my web site but don't expect me to try to overcome your belief that you are right and everyone else is wrong.