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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:34 pm
by Digit
Trouble here Star is that the Climate Club are as opposed to logic and argument as the archaelogical one.
I have an unfortunate sense of humour and can see Al Gore up to his knees in ice still bleating about global warming. 8)

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:38 pm
by Minimalist
Your link was abbreviated, Star, so using my Super Mod powers, I fixed it.

:D

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:31 pm
by kbs2244
A very key phrase in the Canada story:
"MY intrest was begun WHEN I WAS FUNDED to study........"
If you want a result, just fund a study. You will get your result.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:46 am
by Starflower
Thank you Min, Super Mod powers rock :shock:

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:46 am
by Digit
Some time back, on this thread, I pointed out that we may yet be grateful for all the CO2 we can get.
I noticed in the press yesterday that China has now surpaased the US as the world's largest producer of CO2, does that mean the anti US brigade are now going to have to find something else to blame you for, do you think?
Or will the silence be deafning?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:02 am
by Minimalist
One doubts that the Chinese will care.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:24 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:One doubts that the Chinese will care.
If they don't, they'll have to swim.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:37 am
by Digit
Or learn to ski, depending on which school turns out be correct, if either.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:41 am
by Digit
The Royal Society is Britain's premier scientific 'independent' establishment.
Such greats as Newton, Halley, Faraday etc have walked its hallowed halls.
Below is their report on GW, and even this bunch is having their veracity questioned now as apparently they edited a report showing that CO2 has risen in recent years and that global temps have fallen for the last eight, now down to the 1984 level.
Truth is reported to be the first casualty of war, the battle has begun!

global warming.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 am
by fossiltrader
Most of the people i talk to in my field stand by and have always stood by the idea that global warming is nothing more than a natural occurence.
In fact many have said in my presence that they cannot see what all the fuss is about its normal and will happen live with it.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:20 am
by Digit
They must not have seats on the government funded gravy train I'll guess, FT.
What bothers me is the fact that we seem now not to be able to trust a damn thing governments or 'experts' tell us.
Thank God for the Internet.

Re: global warming.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:26 am
by Rokcet Scientist
fossiltrader wrote:Most of the people i talk to in my field stand by and have always stood by the idea that global warming is nothing more than a natural occurence.
Sure. It's happened before. And it will happen again.
No difference there.
What is different – and it is very different – is the speed with which it happens. Climatological changes like that used to take 3,000 to 30,000 years to occur. The current one looks like it's doing the same thing within only 300 years. Or less!
In geological terms the current climate change is a veritable flip-flop!

That is massively different from previous climatological changes (with the probable exception of the 65 mio kta event. And look what that did to the earth)!

I.o.w.:
that it happens is by no means unique.
How it happens, however, is very much!

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:53 pm
by Digit
Couldn't agree more, pity you're not a politician, might hear some common sense on the subject.

Flip Flops

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:58 pm
by Cognito
The current one looks like it's doing the same thing within only 300 years. Or less!
R/S, the Younger Dryas warming only took a few years. That one was a 15 degrees C warmup almost overnight (27 F for you Yanks). It's dangerous to mess with Mother Nature. :shock:

SPEED.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:01 pm
by fossiltrader
I reme3mber one lecture about 8 years ago where we were told about the core sample updates.
This being that for a number of years once it was possible to examine signs of past ice ages in core samples in much greater detail than ever before.The first two things noticed where one the number of ice ages was far more than we thought and two for every one ice age that took several thousand years to build there was evidence for at least six smaller ice ages that developed much faster one age given as an example was possibly 90 years or less.
I am suprised this not common knowledge the great winter of the 1700s i believe in europe was pointed too as one that didnt quite make it this is all quite common knowledge???