Do you have an actual video? My friend happens to work as a translator at the Bosnian national TV station and he says the dude said no such thing. The phrases used were "appears to be" and "more testing is needed", etc. I haven't heard him confirming anything either.Ciko wrote:beacuse i have seen interview with him, he said that he is 100% sureyou said you have never been to the site so how would you hear with your own ears? how do you know you are being told the truth?
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And what language was he speaking in, Ciko? Are you fluent in it? If his words were being translated, how do you know it was an accurate translation?Ciko wrote: because i have seen interview with him, he said that he is 100% sure
He was also sure that he'd found Cambyses army, until it was discovered this "geologist" got confused over FOSSILS. So forgive me for laughing at his claims of this so-called "pyramid's" authenticity.
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We've an Egyptian geologist who did a quick tour of the area, versus a team from Tuzla University who have a lot of local knowledge and did core drills and who, backed by their Geological Association, say that these are natural formations. Which is what they look like.
Why should anyone believe the Egyptian over the local specialists who actually did some drilling?
Why should anyone believe the Egyptian over the local specialists who actually did some drilling?
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Thanks Doug! And welcome!DougWeller wrote:We've an Egyptian geologist who did a quick tour of the area, versus a team from Tuzla University who have a lot of local knowledge and did core drills and who, backed by their Geological Association, say that these are natural formations. Which is what they look like.
Why should anyone believe the Egyptian over the local specialists who actually did some drilling?
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but you dont tell them the truth !!!!!!!!
team from Tuzla University was on pyramid before excavations started , only 2 hours , and they left , and they analize osmangich's book
this photos from last year




team from Tuzla University never visited sonds and stone blocks that was excavated
stop lie here to people, who dont know the truth, i am bosnian i have followed this story from the first begining ,and i know almost everything about this
soon many experts from egypt will come to bosnia, archelogists, geologists, geophysists, experts on decoding ancient scripts and other, and a team from mexico will come also
and when they say that this is a pyramid after they analize all this , then nobody can say against them , it will be final anser is this a pyramid or not
i can see you can lie here to people wery wellWe've an Egyptian geologist who did a quick tour of the area, versus a team from Tuzla University who have a lot of local knowledge and did core drills and who, backed by their Geological Association, say that these are natural formations. Which is what they look like.
Why should anyone believe the Egyptian over the local specialists who actually did some drilling?

but you dont tell them the truth !!!!!!!!
team from Tuzla University was on pyramid before excavations started , only 2 hours , and they left , and they analize osmangich's book
this photos from last year




team from Tuzla University never visited sonds and stone blocks that was excavated
of course , a month of excavations result were excelent , then came Barakat and analized what they have excavated , and he said that this is man-made and that this pyramid was some kind of primitive pyramidWe've an Egyptian geologist who did a quick tour of the area,
stop lie here to people, who dont know the truth, i am bosnian i have followed this story from the first begining ,and i know almost everything about this
soon many experts from egypt will come to bosnia, archelogists, geologists, geophysists, experts on decoding ancient scripts and other, and a team from mexico will come also
and when they say that this is a pyramid after they analize all this , then nobody can say against them , it will be final anser is this a pyramid or not
i sure wish the people that drilled my 40foot well could've done it in 2 hours. they hit no rock really but it still took the best part of 6hours and i stood there and watched.
ciko, you people are like kittens with a ball of yarn. you'll be allowed to play with it as long as you don't break anything and eventually you'll get bored when you realize its not a mouse. meanwhile you're sure cute and funny to watch.
ciko, you people are like kittens with a ball of yarn. you'll be allowed to play with it as long as you don't break anything and eventually you'll get bored when you realize its not a mouse. meanwhile you're sure cute and funny to watch.
Again, I am not a geologist, but yesterday night I did half an hour of google search and found this:
Osmanagic claims these stone balls are proof of an ancient civilization...

... but well, they're called 'cannonball concretions', natural sandstone formations that are found in different landscapes of north america. This one is from north dakota:

http://nd.water.usgs.gov/lewisandclark/ ... tions.html
Weird sandstone stuff again.
If I, with just high school level geology knowledge, can find out that those round stones are natural in only half an hour of google search, why don't the guys who are in charge of the excavation, and Osmanagic himself, find that too? are they incompetent? or are they lying?
Osmanagic claims these stone balls are proof of an ancient civilization...

... but well, they're called 'cannonball concretions', natural sandstone formations that are found in different landscapes of north america. This one is from north dakota:

http://nd.water.usgs.gov/lewisandclark/ ... tions.html
Weird sandstone stuff again.
If I, with just high school level geology knowledge, can find out that those round stones are natural in only half an hour of google search, why don't the guys who are in charge of the excavation, and Osmanagic himself, find that too? are they incompetent? or are they lying?
Ciko wrote:. Don't forget that on Visoko hill there was a castle built on the top, over the ruins of a roman fort.
yes but there was nothing built on the sides of the hill or pyramid, just on the top
Well, how do you know that there was nothing built on the sides of the hill? You wouldn't know until an archeologist went there and started digging, which obviously has not been done because we wouldn't be discussing if there's a pyramid there then.
Well, on that geological report by the guys from Tuzla, it said that they found 2 skeletons buried between two sandstone slabs. That looks like 2 tombs... and a very probable graveyard.Ciko wrote:no it is not truthAnd I think there was a medieval graveyard too.
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No need to get nasty.Ciko wrote:i can see you can lie here to people wery well![]()
but you dont tell them the truth !!!!!!!
Wait a minute. The excavations started in April THIS year, yet you try to imply those photos are the university team boring LAST year?! Two hours before the excavations began?team from Tuzla University was on pyramid before excavations started , only 2 hours , and they left , and they analize osmangich's book
this photos from last year
No he didn't. He said there might be similarities, but that further excavation was needed first.of course , a month of excavations result were excelent , then came Barakat and analized what they have excavated , and he said that this is man-made and that this pyramid was some kind of primitive pyramid
So what? Following a story from the beginning doesn't make you an expert, any more than studying pyramids makes Osmanagich an archaeologist.stop lie here to people, who dont know the truth, i am bosnian i have followed this story from the first begining ,and i know almost everything about this
Well, how do you know that there was nothing built on the sides of the hill? You wouldn't know until an archeologist went there and started digging, which obviously has not been done because we wouldn't be discussing if there's a pyramid there then.
how i know ?
i know beacuse bosnian archelogists say that medival town or castle where bosnian kings ruled bosnian kingdom was on the top of the hill not on the side
Well, on that geological report by the guys from Tuzla, it said that they found 2 skeletons buried between two sandstone slabs.
this is not truth either
they found some human skeleton just few centimeters under the soil close to the pyramid not under the slabs . and it is not guys from tuzla who found it, it is osmangich and geologist nukich who found it in october 2005
there is no graveyeard thereThat looks like 2 tombs... and a very probable graveyard.
that is not canon ballsbut well, they're called 'cannonball concretions', natural sandstone formations that are found in different landscapes of north america. This one is from north dakota:
if this is a canonball i am an alien
stone balls in bosnia

egyptian expert Barakat and Bosnich
Wait a minute. The excavations started in April THIS year, yet you try to imply those photos are the university team boring LAST year?! Two hours before the excavations began?
no man no ou dont understand
thos photos are from august 2005 , when they found anomalies in this holes, theystared to digg in october 2005 and found stone blocks wich forms pyramid and tunels those excavation in october was only 1 week
, just to see if there is something under the soil and they have found it now they started in april bigg excations to uncover pyramid walls
i said stop lieing hereNo he didn't. He said there might be similarities, but that further excavation was needed first.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireSt ... SFeeds0312
"My opinion is that this is a type of pyramid, probably a primitive pyramid," said Dr. Aly Abd Alla Barakata, a geologist from the Egyptian Mineral Resource Authority.
Dr. Barakata, an expert in the stone blocks used to build ancient pyramids, said he believes the structure could not be natural and should be investigated further.
Did those bosnian archeologists check the sides of the hill for artifacts or whatever?Ciko wrote:Well, how do you know that there was nothing built on the sides of the hill? You wouldn't know until an archeologist went there and started digging, which obviously has not been done because we wouldn't be discussing if there's a pyramid there then.
how i know ?
i know beacuse bosnian archelogists say that medival town or castle where bosnian kings ruled bosnian kingdom was on the top of the hill not on the side
From the reportCiko wrote:
Well, on that geological report by the guys from Tuzla, it said that they found 2 skeletons buried between two sandstone slabs.
this is not truth either
they found some human skeleton just few centimeters under the soil close to the pyramid not under the slabs . and it is not guys from tuzla who found it, it is osmangich and geologist nukich who found it in october 2005
"However, in the second (II) sequence of sandstone plates at the right hand side of the probing well we found two plates one over another at the angle of approximately 25 degrees. Between those two plates there was clay marl and a human skeleton in it. The skeleton was not complete. It consisted of a left leg bones and fractions of a scull placed in the area of pelvis.
All sandstone plates in the III sequence were paved one over another under the same angle as it was done in the II sequence. In the II sequence of plates remains of a human skeleton were found again. "
I didn't say that they were cannonballs. They are stones with round shape. They are natural, look at the picture that I posted above: it is a natural stone and looks EXACTLY the same as the ones in Bosnia. 'Cannonball concretions' is just the name, not real cannonballs.Ciko wrote:that is not canon ballsbut well, they're called 'cannonball concretions', natural sandstone formations that are found in different landscapes of north america. This one is from north dakota:
if this is a canonball i am an alien
I'll post the picture again:

This round stone is natural, and is from North Dakota. It looks exactly like the ones in Bosnia, ERGO the ones in Bosnia are most probably natural too.
Dr. Barakata is a) not very smart or b) lying. I found out in half an hour of searching on internet that those round rocks are natural, but he didn't, and he is a geologist. And we know he has past stories of crappy science.Ciko wrote: i said stop lieing here
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireSt ... SFeeds0312
"My opinion is that this is a type of pyramid, probably a primitive pyramid," said Dr. Aly Abd Alla Barakata, a geologist from the Egyptian Mineral Resource Authority.
Dr. Barakata, an expert in the stone blocks used to build ancient pyramids, said he believes the structure could not be natural and should be investigated further.
Look, maybe there is a pyramid, but most if not all of the blocks and stones that are shown in the pictures are natural.
A word on stone balls
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These stones are from Costa Rica and have been found all over the country. Many of them have been moved and are used to adorn public buildings and estates.
They are granite and have been carved by the ancient Olmecs (most people believe). Many contemporary scientists think that they may have been placed in astronomically significant alignments. But we will never know.
The stones in Bosnia may be sandstone. I can't tell. But whether they are natural or artificial doesn't mean that an earlier culture didn't use them in a way that was significant to them. But we will never know.
Ancient man has frequently attempted to create "heaven on earth". The pyramids of Giza and the lines on the Nasca plains may be a couple of more examples.
It sure seems that quick judgements are being made in Bosnia. I understand that a larger team of scientists will be there next month. They better hurry.

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These stones are from Costa Rica and have been found all over the country. Many of them have been moved and are used to adorn public buildings and estates.
They are granite and have been carved by the ancient Olmecs (most people believe). Many contemporary scientists think that they may have been placed in astronomically significant alignments. But we will never know.
The stones in Bosnia may be sandstone. I can't tell. But whether they are natural or artificial doesn't mean that an earlier culture didn't use them in a way that was significant to them. But we will never know.
Ancient man has frequently attempted to create "heaven on earth". The pyramids of Giza and the lines on the Nasca plains may be a couple of more examples.
It sure seems that quick judgements are being made in Bosnia. I understand that a larger team of scientists will be there next month. They better hurry.