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Not easy to do.


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Another hand ax...yawn...

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20471.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20472.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20473.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20474.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Proximal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl


http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20471.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20472.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20473.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20474.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Proximal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl
Charlie Hatchett
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Another hand ax...

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20475.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20476.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20477.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20475.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20476.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20477.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl
Charlie Hatchett
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Consolidation of hand axes posted today:

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20467.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 10.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20468.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 10.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20469.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 10.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20470.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Proximal View- 10.75"- Lima-Igl
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20471.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20472.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20473.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20474.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Proximal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20475.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20476.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20477.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20467.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 10.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20468.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 10.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20469.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 10.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20470.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Proximal View- 10.75"- Lima-Igl
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20471.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20472.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20473.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20474.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Proximal View- 6.75"- Lima-Igl
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http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20475.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Ventral View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20476.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Dorsal View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20477.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax- Distal View- 5.25"- Lima-Igl
Charlie Hatchett
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http://exn.ca/hominids/handaxehill.cfm
'99 the video is no longer available.
An article on hand axes in Africa. Interesting but since the article is fromWe started to look around and survey the general area, and there were more and more and more of these artefacts. In fact, one side of the hill was a fairly sharp cliff and all the way down the cliff, you could see it was like a cascade, like a waterfall of these hand axes that were being eroded out of the hill, cascading down the side of the cliff."
'99 the video is no longer available.
Arizona
Min, your state was quite forested during the late Pleistocene:Who would live next to river that is dry for 11 months out of the year?
Our ancestors were not stupid, you know!
http://biology.usgs.gov/luhna/chap9.html

The area where I search near Calico received about 30 inches of annual rainfall during the late Pleistocene due to cold Sierra glacial air meeting Pacific moist air overhead. When the glaciers withdrew the climate adjusted to about 5 inches of annual rainfall. No more forests, no more lake, the river went dry and game disappeared. A virtual paradise was turned into hell.
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The area up near Flagstaff is heavily forested now.
Down here in the Valley things are a tad different but we do have the remains of several rivers.
Down here in the Valley things are a tad different but we do have the remains of several rivers.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
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Crater
Even your state's famous crater was a lake:
http://www.barringercrater.com/science/
Here's something on the North American woodlands during the last Pleistocene:
http://media.wiley.com/product_data/exc ... 136220.pdf
http://www.barringercrater.com/science/
Here's something on the North American woodlands during the last Pleistocene:
http://media.wiley.com/product_data/exc ... 136220.pdf
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Hey Min.The area up near Flagstaff is heavily forested now.
Down here in the Valley things are a tad different but we do have the remains of several rivers.
Here's what looks like a classic example of a point bar (highlighted light blue), and corresponding cut bank (highlighted red), just northwest of Tucson:


I'll bet you a dollar you'll find something out on that point bar, and, if you can get across the creek/ river, the cut bank probably has stuff sticking out of it.
What's happening in this situation is the river is cutting down into an old alluvium (dissecting), most likely Pleistocene age.
Not that I'm trying to tempt you, or anything...

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Here's an ax, just on the verge of being impossible to substantiate:

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20478.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax-9.75"- Ventral View- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20479.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax-9.75"- Dorsal View- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20480.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax-9.75"- Distal View- Lima-Igl
This piece illustrates how calcium fills the knapped portions, gradually, making it next to impossible to differentiate between geofact and artifact. I'll post one here in a bit that's over that line, in my opinion.

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20478.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax-9.75"- Ventral View- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20479.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax-9.75"- Dorsal View- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20480.jpg
Possible PreClovis Hand Ax-9.75"- Distal View- Lima-Igl
This piece illustrates how calcium fills the knapped portions, gradually, making it next to impossible to differentiate between geofact and artifact. I'll post one here in a bit that's over that line, in my opinion.
Charlie Hatchett
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Artifact or geofact?

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20481.jpg
11.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20482.jpg
11.75"- Lima-Igl- Another View

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20483.jpg
11.75"- Lima-Igl- Another View

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20481.jpg
11.75"- Lima-Igl

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20482.jpg
11.75"- Lima-Igl- Another View

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... %20483.jpg
11.75"- Lima-Igl- Another View
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Not that I'm trying to tempt you, or anything...
Good....cause Tucson is a hell of a long way away.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
-- George Carlin
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Have you got a magnifying glass? Maybe you can find some signs of working...i picked this up and to me it appears as if someone has shaped it to look like a semi human figure
see the eyes on the upper lobe and the smooth rounded finish like it was hand polished ?

Charlie Hatchett
PreClovis Artifacts from Central Texas
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