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Here we are on new year's eve, and you can see buttercups, henbit,
oxalis, quince, and other plants in bloom outside!

I'm looking at 27" of snow, been shoveling snow for 3 days
Bring on that warming!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story ... mailfriend

"We're really getting everything we've dreamed of. What we're getting is a pretty detailed history of the ice shelf," he said.

"You go from full glacial conditions to open ocean conditions very abruptly. It doesn't surprise us that much that the transition was dramatic."

I'm looking at 27" of snow, been shoveling snow for 3 days
Bring on that warming!

I'm with you Bruce, this has been the coldest winter here since 1990/91. Every morning on my way to work it has been 15-22 degrees F (that's
-9 to -6 degrees C for you Brits on this forum). Bring on the warming!

Dang, you guys are getting winter out there. It's been around 70 degrees here the last few days.

We'll get some before it's over though.

it has been 15-22 degrees F (that's
-9 to -6 degrees C for you Brits on this forum).

ahhhh English summertime

When you look at the various estimates of sea level rises if (when) the Ross shelf goes I wonder quite what the doom mongers suggest we do. I don't think we can stop it.
One thing that does puzzle me is the fact that global warming, as opposed to a more local warming, is that it should result in increased precipitation, and thus an increase in snow fall on the polar caps and higher altitudes and thus an increase in the height of glaciers.
Experts say that some glaciers have speeded up and attribute that to the loss of support at the leading edge, in the case of ice shelves, and reduction of support in mountains as the leading edge retreats. That may be so, but increased precipitation should also result in an increase in speed.
Anyone know any thing?

Don't confuse our American friends Marduk, there is an infallible method around here for telling summer time, the rain gets warmer!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070103/sc_ ... imate_dc_1

CANBERRA (Reuters) - Australia appears to be suffering an accelerated Greenhouse effect, with the pace of global warming faster across the country than in other parts of the world, climatologists said on Wednesday.

Gettin' tough down under.

They'll have to put the Foster's brewery on double shift.

Old Chinese proverb Beag, 'it's a wise man who accepts the inevitable'. I think money could be better used dealing with the consequences than trying to halt them.
Governments aren't really able to tackle this problem, they act more like the little Dutch Boy and the hole in the dyke.
An example in UK press today, our government is raising taxes to 'fight global warming', which nobody believes I might add, so a train journey the length of this country is now more expensive that flying it!
That's really gonna help isn't it?

They'll have to put the Foster's brewery on double shift.

Yep, that's a pretty good beer mate. That would indeed be a global warming disaster.

I read many years ago that Australia had massive engineering plans to divert water runoff from the east side of the mountains into the western side, and into the Outback.

I wonder what happened.

As far as I recall it was called the Great Snowy River project and it was, I believe, completed. Don't know a great deal about it 'cos my interest at that time was limited to the fact that during construction work a worker on a day off stumbled across the wreakage of an aircraft that had been lost for over forty years.
The owner was Kingsford Smith, who was a famous Oz aviator pre WW2, there were no survivors and it broke his company.

Great Snowy River project

Hmm... I'll see what I can find. Thanks Digit.

Peter Kendall, a farmer's leader in the UK is talking about GW on the BBC's site. He wants animal 'waste' used to produce fuel and info on how to use his inorganic fertilisers.
With the energy needed to produce inorganic fertilisers he would be better off using his animal 'waste' for fertiliser.
I think some still haven't got their act sorted on this subject.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16390346/

“This is a dramatic and disturbing event. It shows that we are losing remarkable features of the Canadian North that have been in place for many thousands of years,” Vincent said. “We are crossing climate thresholds, and these may signal the onset of accelerated change ahead.”

Another ice shelf breaking off

Digit wrote
Experts say that some glaciers have speeded up and attribute that to the loss of support at the leading edge, in the case of ice shelves, and reduction of support in mountains as the leading edge retreats. That may be so, but increased precipitation should also result in an increase in speed.
Anyone know any thing?

These ice shelfs are made mostly of salt water. there seems to some debate over the glaciers as they are fresh water. IMO the fresh water will stay that way in the form of precipitation or lake water, aquifers so on-and not contribute to rising sea levels.

Good point that Bruce, shouldn't apply to the poles of course, but could be an asset elsewhere.
People keep on about the downside of GW but there are upsides as well of course.