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[Cognito]

Thank you for that explanation, Min. You possess more patience than I.

The ice caps can (and do) expand and contract without going into a full blown ice age with a resulting raising/lowering of sea level.

All I can add to the above is that sea levels have been relatively stable since about 6,000bce with minor oscillations since then:

http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Im ... _Level_png

So the big question remains: will sea levels increase due to global warming and thereby flood Korea, or is the current interstatial about to end in spite of our best efforts, turning Arch into an icycle? I would prefer ice sculpting, but that likely has something to do with my wanting snow on Christmas and an unwavering belief in the Tooth Fairy.

[Minimalist]

The lowest point of sea level during the last glaciation is not well constrained by observations (shown here as a dashed curve), but is generally argued to be approximately 130 +/- 10 m below present sea level and to have occurred at approximately 22 +/- 3 thousand years ago. The time of lowest sea level is more or less equivalent to the last glacial maximum. Prior to this time, ice sheets were still increasing in size so that sea level was decreasing semi-continuously over a period of approximately 100,000 years.

Which suggests that although man may be helping things along due to greenhouse gases the inexorable melting of the glaciers is due to planetary forces which will proceed regardless of what man does.

Until the cycle starts all over again.

[Guest]

are likey to stick to their proverbial guns

i am not worried about their position, they are talking about ice and a process when the orignal article and my original questions mentioned humidity and rain...not ice nor a process.

there is a big difference between ice melting and getting water through rain storms.
so unless people can stick to the original quote i am out of this discussion.

[Minimalist]

there is a big difference between ice melting and getting water through rain storms.

Actually, no. It is all one big cycle. Ice melts, flows in to the oceans as water, evaporates and comes back in the form of rain. If it is cold enough it falls as snow and if the climate does not melt all of the snow from a given year it compacts as ice and glaciers grow. If it is warm enough, then current snow melts along with some of the existing ice and the glacier shrinks. That is the part of the cycle we are in now.

This is Hancock's argument. That during the last glacial maximum mankind had followed the retreating sea level and settled along the coasts. Subsequent rising water from the meltdown led to the world wide flood myths.

[Guest]

This is Hancock's argument. That during the last glacial maximum mankind had followed the retreating sea level and settled along the coasts. Subsequent rising water from the meltdown led to the world wide flood myths

i just don't buy that. but i do not want to take this subject where no one wants it to go.

it would be fun to speculate but with the lack of information to corroborate anyone's thinking we would just have a big argument. i am not looking for an argument.

i am looking for more information, now if you could go back to my post where i placed the links and refer me to more informative sites that would be helpful.

** i should say that hancock has come up with some interesting ideas and starting points for some intelligent investigation but there is a lot he and others say that just ruin their work.