Giza

[Bruce]

http://times-age.co.nz/localnews/storyd ... ubsection=

"I usually work in the Far North but South Wairarapa will be very interesting. There are some of the earliest-known sites in the country right here, and what we need to make sure is that the sites haven't deteriorated from coastal erosion or that someone hasn't put a bulldozer through them.

"The sites hold the cultural values of both pakeha and Maori that are left on the ground – the subset of our history."

NZAA National project manager Lynda Walter said the Site Recording Scheme was established in 1957 to encourage the recording of information about archaeological sites. It is a paper-based system holding over 58,000 records that contains text, plans, section drawings, photographs, artefact drawings and field notes, she said. It is endorsed by the Historic Places Trust and the Department of Conservation as the national system for recording archaeological site information.

This is a better solution than what egypt has adopted. I hope the Americas adopt this type of archaelogoical "emminent domain". Besides, the looters might even tell you what and where they found them.

[Digit]

We live and learn. Well some of us do. I didn't know Cayce was a con, but I'm glad to hear it because I understand that he predicted that the coast of wales would vanish beneath the sea, AND I LIVE THERE!

[marduk]

most people don't realise that Cayce was a convicted criminal either and that most of his predictions are complete waffle
the A.R.E. don't like to mention it

its all about money and gullible readership

[Digit]

ARE to me is atomic research establishment, could you enlighten me please?

[marduk]

http://www.edgarcayce.org/
the A.R.E. (Association for Research and Enlightenment) was set up by Edgar Cayce to handle the vast amounts of money his type of fraud generated
of course the A.R.E. claims that Cayce never accepted a penny from any of his patients who saw him for medical readings (he was not a qualified doctor and this would be extremely illegal)
however he only gave readings to members of the A.R.E. and you had to pay them to join
and the A.R.E. then paid him a salary as a consultant

it was before Cayce came up with this idea that he was convicted of practicing medicine without a license in detroit in 1935

the A.R.E. thesedays spends most of its time supporting the idea that Cayce was some form of reincarnated teacher of sacred wisdom
he actually stated that he was himself
but he died from a stroke in 1945
which is hardly messianic is it really
he also claimed that Jesus would be returning to save the world
in 1998 (he's a little overdue)

the other claim thats often made for Cayce is that the similarity between the stuff that he came out with and that which Madame Blavatsky came out with is because they were both Genuine

Blavatskys works "Isis unveiled" and the "secret doctrine" were released as a compilation called the "secret doctrine of isis" after her death by the Theosophist society in 1901 iirc
the A.R.E. claims that he never read them

you can judge that claim for yourself because Edgar worked in bookstores from 1893 to 1908

most of his predictions fall apart when you examine the original reading and not the doctored version that the A.R.E. gives you

DR Greg Little started off claiming that he was just interested in the ancient harbour that apparently is evidenced by the Bimini road (a known geological formation) he's quite fond of categorically denying that he thinks its Atlantis at all
despite the fact that hes the head of ther A.R.E's Atlantis in the Bahamas project.
And his qualification to be studying a geological formation which he claims is an archaeolgical site
he's a psycologist

[Digit]

It beats working for a living I imagine.

[Beagle]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... g-tut.html

A CT scan of King Tutankhamun's mummy has disproved a popular theory that the Egyptian pharaoh was murdered by a blow to the head more than 3,300 years ago.

From National Geographic.

[marduk]

this is old news
http://www.medgadget.com/archives/2005/ ... s_kin.html

March 11, 2005
But the Pharaoh may have suffered from a broken thigh shortly before his death at the age of 19. Some members of the examination team say that the Pharaoh may have died from an infection of this wound.

[Beagle]

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2006/823/he3.htm

ARCHAEOLOGISTS are sizing up a splendid painted anthropoid wooden sarcophagus found by chance at the Saqqara necropolis last week..

The sarcophagus was found by an Egyptian archaeological mission engaged in cleaning the burial shaft of the sixth- dynasty royal physician Qar, which neighbours King Djoser's pyramid complex at Saqqara almost 35km south of the Giza Plateau.

From: The News Section

[Minimalist]

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/in ... d=33182007

Samples taken over the past two years from sediments beneath Tana, which supplies the water which makes the lower Nile valley so fertile, reveal the lake may have almost dried up during the critical period around 4,200 years ago due to climate change.

According to the team's theory, the flow of water on which the farm-based ancient Egyptian economy thrived would have slowed to a trickle, causing a devastating famine that lasted for 200 years.

That would have been enough to destroy the Old Kingdom and its people, leaving only the pyramids and the Sphinx at Giza as their legacy to history.

The research is being carried out by a geological team from St Andrews University and the University of Wales, Aberystwyth.

[Beagle]

Bates said: "The opportunity to establish such a long and detailed record of climate change at the heart of Africa has important implications, not only for trying to understand past, present and future climate change, but as we delve back into the past, it will also have important implications for the study of human development and the migration of early man from the cradle of mankind."

Hmm... we have had many discussions about the reason for humans to migrate.

This article still doesn't suggest anything about what these megalithic structures were or when they were constructed. Very interesting though.

[Minimalist]

If they refine their technique, perhaps they will discover similar droughts in the 80-100,000 time frame. Glaciation was a multiple event and if there was a drought near the end of the last one perhaps there was a similar drought at the end of the prior one....or any of the others.

"What we now know is that the lake dried out 18,000 years ago, which corresponds with the end of the last Ice Age. As we get better at what we are doing we should be able to detect the nuances of what went on in the lake after that time," Bates said.

[Minimalist]

Hmmm....

[117,101] - On May 26th, 1837, J. R. Hill, working for Howard Vyse, was clearing the exit point for the southern airshaft of the King's Chamber where it exited at the 102nd course. After removing two outer tiers of stone, an "Iron Plate" was found wedged between some inter stone joints. The plate was roughly 12" x 4" and 1/8" thick. This iron could prove that the Iron Age of Egypt, currently placed at no earlier than 650 B.C. could actually predate that time by 2000 years! This iron plate is now in the British Museum.
[117,106] - Optical and chemical tests were finally performed some 108 years later in 1989 on the iron plate. The results reported by the metallurgical experts were that the metal was iron, not of meteoric orgin, that was formed by smelting at between 1000 and 1100 degrees Centrigrade. There were traces of gold on one face of the plate, as if it had at one time been gold plated. The evidence, the report concluded, would suggest that the iron plate had indeed been in place since the Pyramid was built.

http://www.hunkler.com/pyramids/pyramid_symbolism.html

The Howard-Vyse expedition also found another strange artefact while exploring the outside faces of the Khufu pyramid with explosives: a plate of iron measuring 26 x 8.8 cm. and about 4 mm. thick. Although iron cannot be carbon dated, the story of its discovery and testing is worth being reminded of here in view of the possible huge implications it might bear on the Pyramid Age. The discovery of the iron plate was not made by Howard-Vyse himself but by an engineer called J.R. Hill, who was under Howard-Vyse's employment. Hill found the plate embedded in a joint on the south face of the monument near or within the entrance of the so-called air-channel. Hill was adamant that the iron plate must be contemporaneous with the construction of the pyramid since he had to blast away two outer tiers of blocks in order to reach it and extract it from a masonry joint near or within the mouth of the southern shaft. The iron plate was eventually donated to the British Museum along with an affidavit from Hill and also from others who had been present during the find. In 1926 Dr. A. Lucas examined the iron plate and, although at first agreed with Mr. Hill that it was contemporaneous with the pyramid, Lucas later changed his mind when he realized that the iron was not from meteoritic origin. It is generally believed that iron was unknown in the Pyramid Age and that the only possible source of iron was from iron-meteorites, which are composed of about 95 iron and 5 nickel [5]. In 1989, however, two metallurgists, Dr. El Gayar of the faculty of Petroleum and Mineral in Suez, Egypt, and Dr. M.P. Jones of Imperial College London, asked the British Museum for a small sample of the iron plate so that they could conduct a full scientific examination. After El Gayar and Jones conducted a series of chemical and microscopic tests on the iron plate, these scientists concluded that: 'the plate was incorporated within the pyramid at the time that structure was built' i.e. it was contemporaneous with the pyramid [6]. The chemical and microscopic analyses of the iron plate also revealed very small traces of gold, suggesting that the plate had perhaps been originally gilded. The actual size of the plate was estimated to have been 26 x 26 cm., which is roughly the same size of the shaft's mouth, which in turn suggests that the iron plate possibly had served as some sort of cover or gate to the shaft's mouth. El Gayar and Jones also pointed out that the plate's dimension of 26 x 26 cm. implied it was sized in royal cubit, the measure used by the pyramid builders (half a royal cubit of 52.37 cm. gives 26.18 cm.). As we have said, the plate could not be Carbon 14 dated since it contained no organic material. In spite of the findings of Gayer and Jones, the British Museum still assumes that the iron plate was probably a piece broken off a spade or shovel used by Arabs in medieval times.

http://www.robertbauval.co.uk/articles/ ... /DE49.html

Note: The Club in action.....underlined.

[Beagle]

Note: The Club in action.....underlined.

What...you don't have a gold plated shovel??

[Minimalist]

My ex-boss wanted to give me a gold brick, one time!