Inteligent Design

LadyV · Post by **LadyV** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:17 am

archaeologist wrote:
open yor eyes and look around you at the mountains, the trees, the flowersm, the animals, the stars in the sky. then maybe you will be on the right path to finding the existence of God.

All absolutely magnificent...but it is not proof of any God! My eyes are open. Because I see the splendor of the world does not prove the existence of a god. Perhaps you should open your eyes and see past your bible, it's obstructing your view.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:09 am

but it is not proof of any God

what can i say, the proof you want may not be available thus you have to make do with the results of creation, found in hospitals, vet clinics and plant nurseries all around the world. which is then supported by the archaeological record (evolution is not). nothing has changed since the beginning of time.

Post by **Minimalist** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:51 am

All natural splendors that have nothing to do with any deity.

As a matter of fact, based on the personality traits given to your so-called god by his 'followers' I would expect the earth to look more like this

than this.

john · Post by **john** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:19 pm

i opened my eyes, and then i saw the mountains, and the trees, and the flowers, and the animals, and the stars

and then..................

i had this vision

a kindly face, a full beard

after so many years of fasting in the wilderness

at last!

Darwin

john

john · Post by **john** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:19 pm

i opened my eyes, and then i saw the mountains, and the trees, and the flowers, and the animals, and the stars

and then..................

i had this vision

a kindly face, a full beard

after so many years of fasting in the wilderness

at last!

Darwin

john

Post by **Minimalist** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:31 pm

That one was worth posting twice!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:53 pm

itis surprising where you find evolution mentioned these days. seems every secular book has to put it in their pages taken from the book, 'voices of the rocks' pg. 24 and 31:

"By the final chapter of origin, Darwin wrote, 'as natural selection acts solely by accumulating slight, successivefavourable variations, it can produce no great or sudden modification, it can act only by very short and slow steps...

'The extinction of species and of whole groups of species, which has played so conspiciuous a part inthe history of the organic world, almost inevitably follows on the principle of natural selection; for old forms will be supplanted by new and improved forms,' darwin wrote...

Darwin revisited Lyell's argument about absent clues. He noted that fossils can be destroyed by a great many causes and concluded that 'all these causes...taken conjointly must have tended to make the geological record extremely imperfect, and will to a large extent explain why we do not find interminable varieties, connecting together all the extinct and existing forms of life by the finest graduated steps."

now pg. 31;

"Even before the details of the Chcxulub impact became clear, paleontologists like Niles Elderedge and Stephan Jay Gould were proposing a new model of evolution that moved not slowly and gradually but in fits and starts."

you see it is not that creatinists or myself do not understand evolution, we just see the convenience of the explanations and realize that there is no possible way any of these men and the scientists who follow this thinking, can prove their point.

anything and everything is used to try and prove this thought yet we on the other side know that it is a futile attempt to find something to explain the life other than the biblical record. it is a desparation to make 'evidence' fit the theory and not vice versa.

isn't it amazing that the great extinctions fallout basically matches up to the destruction of one flood. or that the neanderthals theory is used to explain skeletons that are possibly remnants of the pre-flood civilization.

all is designed to steer attention away from the facts of the Bible because the Bible requires something you do not want to give.

ReneDescartes · Post by **ReneDescartes** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:07 pm

Again you understand nothing Arch ,you are mentionning different authors trying to find contradictions but there are none .It is only your poor logics that make you see ghosts .

ReneDescartes · Post by **ReneDescartes** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:12 pm

quote Arch all is designed to steer attention away from the facts of the Bible because the Bible requires something you do not want to give.
unquote
.If you think evolutionist have a secret agenda you suffer from paranoia .
In the theory of evolution great causes and small causes undistinctly are responsible for creating new species ,sorry for you if you think that is incompatible .

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:37 pm

Again you understand nothing Arch

right on cue......

If you think evolutionist have a secret agenda you suffer from paranoia

going after the messenger and not the issue.

In the theory of evolution great causes and small causes undistinctly are responsible for creating new species ,sorry for you if you think that is incompatible .

evolutionists just attribute the changes and origins to the wrong source.

Post by **Minimalist** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:26 pm

Better to attribute them to a non-existent diety?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:22 am

i imagine the following is going to open up a can of worms but oh well, i saw it and had to post it :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story ... 48,00.html

The work of Bruce Hood, a professor at Bristol University, suggests that magical and supernatural beliefs are hardwired into our brains from birth, and that religions are therefore tapping into a powerful psychological force

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:29 am

and this one. even though i am not catholic, this re-alignment may affect many scientists who try to be both evolutionists and catholic at the same time.

it doesn't affect me some but it does signify a change in the E/C debate:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story ... 61,00.html

Pope prepares to embrace theory of intelligent design

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:04 am

You never did choose which deity you believe in.

Why?

--J.D.

ed · Post by ed » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:27 am

Even the Pope is with us on this.