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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:10 am
by Digit
Your last sentence is exactly what I have attempted to do Monk, with the advantage of an engineering back ground. The 90 degree bit is valid on the way up, but not on the way down if the dressing blocks are close to the inner structure, there simply wouldn't be sufficient space. If they had lifting tackle capable of lifting these weights then the dove tail in the top accomplishes the function without the above problems.
I cannot see how levers could have been used, unless the blocks were then dressed to final size at the front, without leaving chipped edges or other evidence of there use.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:20 am
by Forum Monk
Even though a good part of my career was electrical project management, my degree was in mechanical engineering design: machines and structures. I think its a disadvantage when looking at this kind of problem. Necessity is the mother of invention. Sometimes education impedes.

I'm done speculating.

:(

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:33 am
by Digit
Once again I'm forced to agree with you Monk, I once accepted a job on the basis that I knew nothing about it so that I started with an open mind.
On the other hand, if you wanted a large public building erected who would you employ. An archeaologist or a civil engineer?
I have been busy chipping away at various 'accepted' ideas because from an engineerin stand point they are rubbish, like the idea of a single ramp, if they could place blocks as fast as I have been asked to accept that ramp would require raising every few hours!
Doesn't sound very likely does it?

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:37 am
by Beagle
Sometimes education impedes.
Monk, You're too intelligent to believe that. Education is simply education. What a person does with that mind is a personal choice. But the educated mind is always ahead of the game IMO.

I don't know if you have any children, but if so, I'm certain that you're not giving them that message.

I would agree that learning is a life long process though. And bright minds do not stop speculating - then you're in a little box. :wink:

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:47 am
by Forum Monk
Your are correct Beag, and I would feel horrible if some kid dropped of school because of my lame remark. I'm thankful my daughter sees the value of education without me pushing it but I like to think I instilled that value in her. Education is essential.

What I'm saying in context to the pyramid construction problem, is, I may as an engineer figure out a method to do it because I am educated and live post-industrial revolution, but they did it without my advantage, through cleverness and necessity. An when I try to figure out how they did it, my education tends to impede my ability to think in a simpler way.

:)

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:58 am
by Beagle
Thanks Monk. Put that way makes sense to me. Your daughter is fortunate. 8)

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:04 am
by Digit
Yep! Woods and trees gentlemen. Woods and trees!

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:27 am
by Beagle
Forests too! 8)

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:31 am
by Minimalist
kbs2244 wrote:I got into this late.
Have we covered the experments mode by the Cal Tech guys with kites?
They raised some nice sized Obelisks in the desert east of LA, and had theory on how wind power could have been used to move those big blocks of stone as well
There was a tie in to the repeated depiction of eagles with spread wings as a symbol of the technique as well.
Last I heard, they were hoping to go the Egypt and try to repeat their expermints in the wind there.

I saw that show, kb. It took them forever to move a single block of stone. COULD it be done? Apparently. COULD it be done efficiently? Apparently not.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:32 am
by Minimalist
And bright minds do not stop speculating - then you're in a little box
Or Club.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:34 am
by Beagle
Min. Sometimes I think we view the Club a little differently. We'll have to compare thoughts.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:38 am
by Minimalist
:D

Ya think?

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:42 am
by Beagle
Well, I'm talking about a pretty small group of people. You know I'm a big fan of the field archaeologist.

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:27 am
by marduk
isn't he a club member
I thought you'd already said that all qualified people are club members
thats why you rely so heavily on pseudoscientists for your information
hows the search for Atlantis going btw
:lol:
did you find Lemuria yet
:twisted:

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:40 am
by Digit
It's off the coast of Southend, where they buried King Arthur. :lol: