Bosnian pyramids, Part II, no photos please!

[Minimalist]

That does seem to be his conclusion re Yonaguni. Will he dare repeat himself?

[marduk]

either that or he will claim that aliens did it at his girlfriend and publishers urging

[Beagle]

his girlfriend

That's been the new "talking point" for a couple of weeks now. Rather limp but that's what's being said.

I'm referring to the talking points - not you Marduk.

[marduk]

thats because like all myths it has a lot of truth to it

shes a new age nutter
since he met her he has been showing those kind of tendencies
crop circleitis i think its called in some circles
its called selling out in others

[Guest]

he will say its a natural formation altered by man

i think i said he would play both sides of the fence, but that reminds me--he says he will be here on the 27th? is that the european /asian 27th or the north american 27th?

he won't go into specifics and will claim that he doesnt have enough Data for that

i can see that happening, after all he doesn't want his 'reputation' marred by taking sides (like barakat) but i think it would be hard to agree with Os entirely because of Os' lunatic frenzies.

[FreeThinker]

From a science standpoint Schoch's visit will ride on his peer reviewable report, not through media hype or blogging. This is how science works through questions and unsupportable claims are quickly exposed through the bright light of worldwide scientiffic review. A hypothesis is put forwards and the data collected will either support it or not.

Schoch does intend to publish a report, right?

[marduk]

Schoch does intend to publish a report, right?

youre kidding arent you

[Essan]

That does seem to be his conclusion re Yonaguni. Will he dare repeat himself?

He's already intimated it when he first said he was going out there ....

At this point it is premature for me to attempt an answer to this question, but I certainly have a preliminary working hypothesis. My impression, based on the limited data I have seen, is that the Bosnian Pyramids may have started out as natural hills that were subsequently used and modified. If this is the case, there are certainly similar examples elsewhere in the world. The Great Pyramid of Egypt, the exemplar of all pyramids, is built over an original natural mound structure.

Note also that he still manages to draw a comparison with Cheop's pyramid!

[Guest]

Note also that he still manages to draw a comparison with Cheop's pyramid

yes i did. i guess schoch's opinion is not going to matter to much in the mainstream circles since he is not one of 'the club' as minimalist puts it.

how much impact will his assessment make given the circumstances? would his opinion be placed at the levelof a Hancock or a little bit higher and on the level of a Dever or Finklelstein? or even higher to the level of Wood or Yaharoni?

(yes that was a dig at minimalist, couldn't resist)

[Beagle]

Schoch is a respected geologist by any standard. IMO, he has been correct (given the info. that is available to him) in everything that he has done.

Slowly, grudgingly, most scientists agree with his Sphinx findings.

But because he flips off the "club" he is very disliked. All the rhetoric coming now is because many folks are fearful that he may give some credence to the Bosnia excavation.

The example of many folks now attacking his "girlfriend" is what I mean about "clutching at straws".

Hell, even Oz' wife hasn't been attacked. So, nothing more to say until he's done there. He arrives tomorrow.

[Guest]

The example of many folks now attacking his "girlfriend" is what I mean about "clutching at straws

yes but isn't she taking a prominent role without the qualifications to do so? i read one of her postings and i wasn't that impressed with her take on things but i have only read the one so far and could be wrong.

[marduk]

I have read many of her postings
regarding crop circles
she believes that aliens did it

[Guest]

But because he flips off the "club" he is very disliked

There is no archaeology club...at least in Britain. That seems to be a particular obsession with a lot of people over the Atlantic.

All the rhetoric coming now is because many folks are fearful that he may give some credence to the Bosnia excavation

No, not really. Actually we're all sick and tired of all the weirdos crawling out of the woodwork on this one.

The example of many folks now attacking his "girlfriend" is what I mean about "clutching at straws".

And Osmanagich could also be accused of clutching at straws by inviting him, given Os's past record at attracting "experts" to his side.

[Minimalist]

There is no archaeology club...at least in Britain. That seems to be a particular obsession with a lot of people over the Atlantic.

Of course there is and it isn't restricted to archaeology. Membership in any of these clubs is attained by getting a PH. D. in the subject. They are jealous of their field and seek to defend their turf from interlopers.

Doctors can work themselves into a lather whenever anyone suggests alternative cures which are outside the realm of traditional medicine.

Egyptologists went bird-shit when Schoch announced his findings regarding the sphinx.

You will absolutely HATE this article but I see a lot of truth in it.

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/ ... ust09.html

To understand why jargon is so entrenched in academia, it is necessary to examine how academics maintain their power and status. Academic disciplines are central in this process.

There is no inherent reason why knowledge should be divided up into disciplines such as physics and philosophy. These divisions are made and enforced by practitioners. It is salutory to remember that most of today's disciplines did not exist one or two centuries ago.

An academic discipline can be considered to be a strategy by a group of practitioners to claim control over resources and decision-making. The practitioners assert that they alone are capable of judging competence in their area of study.

Credentials are central to disciplinary control. A tight, effective discipline will demand that all who enter the field must have degrees in the discipline itself. No outsiders are allowed. Someone with lots of experience in practical psychology or engineering, but without appropriate credentials, is most unlikely to obtain a university post.

[john]

There is no archaeology club...at least in Britain. That seems to be a particular obsession with a lot of people over the Atlantic.

Of course there is and it isn't restricted to archaeology. Membership in any of these clubs is attained by getting a PH. D. in the subject. They are jealous of their field and seek to defend their turf from interlopers.

Doctors can work themselves into a lather whenever anyone suggests alternative cures which are outside the realm of traditional medicine.

Egyptologists went bird-shit when Schoch announced his findings regarding the sphinx.

You will absolutely HATE this article but I see a lot of truth in it.

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/ ... ust09.html

To understand why jargon is so entrenched in academia, it is necessary to examine how academics maintain their power and status. Academic disciplines are central in this process.

There is no inherent reason why knowledge should be divided up into disciplines such as physics and philosophy. These divisions are made and enforced by practitioners. It is salutory to remember that most of today's disciplines did not exist one or two centuries ago.

An academic discipline can be considered to be a strategy by a group of practitioners to claim control over resources and decision-making. The practitioners assert that they alone are capable of judging competence in their area of study.

Credentials are central to disciplinary control. A tight, effective discipline will demand that all who enter the field must have degrees in the discipline itself. No outsiders are allowed. Someone with lots of experience in practical psychology or engineering, but without appropriate credentials, is most unlikely to obtain a university post.

Ah yes. scientific priesthood. secret language only for initiates. hairless bipedal rats.


john