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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:28 am
by Essan
archaeologist wrote:Correct speaking BP is 'Before 1950'
why is 1950 so special? .
It's just the year that was agreed on.
Personally, I'd prefer the BE/AE system - which would make this year 40AE (After Essan)

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:00 am
by marduk
thats about 36AM

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:15 am
by tj
archaeologist wrote:why is 1950 so special?
Wikipedia wrote:Scientists established 1950 as the origin year for the BP scale because it is the year in which calibration curves for carbon-14 dating, or radiocarbon dating, were established. The year 1950 also predates large scale atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons, which altered the global balance of carbon-14 to carbon-12.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:19 pm
by Guest
very funny and thanks for the chuckle.
do we really need another dating system ?
i understand why they did it but was it necessary? especially since 1950 is no longer the present.
redefined from 'Before Present' to 'Before Physics'
a little arrogant don't you think?
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:51 pm
by marduk
its much more arrogant to date everything on earth using BC which is a date only acceptable to a third of the worlds population imo
Islam is fast catching christianity
would you be happy having everything dated from BM (before mohommed) Arch

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:41 pm
by Guest
would you be happy having everything dated from BM (before mohommed) Arch
i really don't care what initials are used as long as they reflect the true time frame. i don't agree with BP because we are then elevating c-14 dating/physics to a level they do not belong.
they are merely tools in this field. even the a.d./b.c. system is off as it has Christ being born 4 years before the 0 year which is supposed to be his birthday.
i do not like b.c.e./c.e. as it muddles the time frame as it covers too much territory, some of which does not belong in such categories. it is also not definitive enough.
the archaeological labelings of bronze,iron ages, etc. get cumbersome as they are sub-divided into tiny increments which lend more to confusion than clarity.
the christian world uses b.c./a.d. asit puts Christ at the center of reality ,where He belongs, and it does give a simple divide between the two stages of the Biblical record.
i would like to see a dating system that is compatible for all that is simple tothe point and removes confusion. every field has their own style which does not help matters at all and these need to be brought into some sort of functional unity with each other to make it less confusing when these fields interact.
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:47 pm
by marduk
i would like to see a dating system that is compatible for all that is simple tothe point and removes confusion
thats why BCE and CE are now being used Arch
they are tied to the date and not the birth of some jewish guy in a barn somewhere
theres no confusion using them and fyi Jesus Christ isn't in the centre of the reality for anyone but christians
the Jews who wrote down the bible didn't rate him much at all
got yourself a bit of a quandry there haven't you
do you go with your personal belief or the personal belief of the writer of the Bible
iirc that was supposed to be God, doesn't he outrank you
funny how he didn't mention he would be sending his emissary anywhere in it
must have been a last minute decision eh

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:20 am
by Guest
no, no quandry i am content with the b.c./a.d. system, it is better than the b.c.e./c.e. one.
returning tonoah's flood, taken from 'The Flood' pg, 236
"Nor must we overlook the remarkable fact that marine fossils are found on mountaintops hundreds of miles inland from any sea, asinthe canadian rockies, or buried beneath hundreds of feet of clay, sand, gravel andother debris. A.P. Coleman, reporting on the evidence of glaciers in East Canada,found marine fossils in the regionsof Quebec, Montreal,Ottawa, in the Maritime provinces andin Newfoundland. Marine fossils were found underneath boulder clay in below Quebec in 1925... "
it goes on to talk about the elevation of where some fossils were found, 340 ft, 510 ft. above sea level and so on.
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:22 am
by marduk
youve never heard of Tectonic upheaval ?
if youre claiming these were there because of the flood which only lasted 40 days can you explain how animals that move about 1" a year managed to climb so high ?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:06 am
by Essan
Yes, here in England we have a low range of hills called Wenlock Edge. It's the remains of a large coral reef. Which would have taken tens of thousands of years at the very least to grow (based on the rates of growth of all reefs today).
It could only have formed when that part of England was under water for a very long time - longer than the age of the Earth as calcutated by some
Clearly it couldn't not have formed during Noah's flood.
Similar limestone formnations are found all over the world, often at high altitude. These too mmuct have formed at a different time and under different circyumstances to a short lived global flood.
Also, reefs can only grow at very specific depths. A global flood covering the world's mountains would have been much too deep for any reef to survive - so, for example, the Great Barrier Reef can only have started to grow
after the Flood waters had fallen (if it existed beforehand it would ahve been killed - which, of course, is what God presumably intended anyway). If a global flood occurred only a few thousand years ago, how do we explain the formation of such a massive structure in such a relatively short time?
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:16 am
by marduk
how do we explain the formation of such a massive structure in such a relatively short time?
god moves in mysterious ways
and he doesnt own a watch

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:39 am
by Frank Harrist
marduk wrote:how do we explain the formation of such a massive structure in such a relatively short time?
god moves in mysterious ways
and he doesnt own a watch

He owns ALL watches.

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:43 am
by marduk
i have proof that watches are an invention of Satan
see god doesn't mention the time once in the bible that he dictated to Moses
and anything not in the bible clearly is a work of Satan
add that to the fact that the sumerians originated the system of time that we use today and the sumerians existed before Judiasm who were the first to hear Gods word so anything derived from a godless civilisation must be the work of the guy with the Trident (Satan not Poseidon, Shiva, Enlil or Neptune or the Pope)
flawless logic if you have faith eh
muhahaha
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:13 am
by Minimalist
see god doesn't mention the time once in the bible that he dictated to Moses
The Maya were obsessed by time.
The bastards.
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:26 am
by marduk
thats why the vatican declared them heretics
see it had nothing to do with all the gold
