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That was really just wishful thinking. With the way those plates are sliding maybe i can hope for a cataclysm that simply disintegrates the whole area. How fast is the rise in that area, do you know? i read a few years ago that LA was sinking into its aquifer by an inch or two each year. It seems that each summer the city uses so much water that the aquifer gets crushed. Each spring it 'reinflates' somewhat, but not at much as was lost. Naturally, this is the average across the whole area. Some neighborhoods will rise/fall at different rates than others. i'm sure some are even getting a net rise out of the deal.
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And I see that the Gulf Stream has not slowed according to NASA. We'll see what they say next week shall we?

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http://cbs4.com/local/RECORD.LOW.TEMPER ... 07771.html

[quote]Forecasters sat March set record cold readings for Miami Beach, which was 5.8 degrees colder than normal, on average, and for Naples, where the average temperature was almost a degree colder than the previous record.

Forecasters say, overall, there were only a handful of days where temperatures were above normal in South Florida.

Miami temperatures averaged almost 5 degrees below normal, making the January-March period the 9th coldest ever, while Ft. Lauderdale had it's 4th coldest period ever.
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Seems to be headed the wrong way for global warming.

I had a good time posting here the last couple of days. Tomorrow is Easter (passover too). Then next week looks to start getting busy. I'll be sure and get back whenever I find something interesting.
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Here's why I learned to stop worrying and love global warming Beag, take a look at the chart.

http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm

According the Gaia chappy it's too late anyway. Repent! The end is nigh!

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/enviro ... sheep.html

Well I shrink in cold weather! :lol:

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/172 ... of-hot-air

I think the tide is turning against you Min.

From the above...
Spencer describes the junk science that has led to these policy disasters as “the greatest scientific blunder in history”. He adds: “I don’t know whether it will take two years or 20 but I predict that at some point in the future we will realise that the fear of catastrophic climate change was the worst case of mass hysteria the world has ever known.”
..which echoes my comments.

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Meanwhile the glaciers continue to melt.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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Which doesn't make it man made Min. This has always been my objection to the manta.
Global warming? Yes. Man made? Not proven!

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Just seems unreasonable to assert that this...multiplied a couple of hundred thousand times....is helping.

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I personally wouldn't suggest that Min, and as we have both asserted in the past, cleaning up after us is a good idea in itself.
But consider this. A lot of 'experts' claim that GW isn't man made, as in my post. That is not going to make the glaciers stop melting, so perhaps a completely fresh reappraisal of the chemistry, without the doom mongers hanging on, would be a good idea.
If the warmists are indeed wrong we will be spending our taxes in the wrong direction by following their mantra.
I would be more impressed if Gore didn't keep converting sea rise millimeters into feet and our own 'experts' hadn't been caught out as liars.

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I'm rarely impressed with the "single-cause" theory for complex events. The earth has warmed and cooled before with no help from us. The only question this time is "are we making it worse?"

I'm convinced that we are but I'm not at all sure that we have any capacity to stop it.
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"are we making it worse?"
Very probably, I would say. But as you point out, the idea of a single cause in such a complex scenario is very unconvincing.
The very fact that the models that the idea are based have failed to predict the cooling of the last few years would, I would have thought, caused the modellers to stop and think. Yet over here their response has been to either ignore 'an incovenient truth' or simply lie!

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I wonder how many headlines, if any, this will make?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8694544.stm

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organised by the right-wing Heartland Institute,

Who, I wonder, was the main speaker? The chairman of BP?
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.

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