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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:38 pm
by Digit
Those idiots visit here as well Min. :lol:

Flood ... or tsunami

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:19 pm
by Mayonaze
http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2006AM/finalp ... 114274.htm

Chevrons are produced by megatsunamis originating from point sources, i.e. landslides, impact craters, and volcanic explosions. We have assembled data on chevrons worldwide. Most are best explained as the result of tsunami generated from large impact cratering events. We now have data confirming an impact origin of two chevron sources. In the Indian ocean, chevron dunes in Western Australia, India, and Madagascar point towards the 29 km Burckle Crater at 30.865S, 61.365E. …. Other sources are impact crater candidates and require more study. We found the following: … the 10 km Quetzalcoatl crater candidate in the Caribbean at 22.04N, 96.32W, …

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:51 am
by Mayonaze
daybrown wrote:But there isnt any great river near Mexico city that could
do that to Mammoth. The whole area is flat, and would've
been marshy in the paleolithic.

The photo I saw showed articulated intact skeletons, so
they were not butchered for meat, but just died where they
stood. Besides a pathogen, the only other option i see is a
gasification from a volcanic vent. But, because the land is so
flat, it'd take an enormous eruption at a time when there is
no wind.

But during the stagnant air of summer, woolly mammoth
would have migrated back north.
http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2006AM/finalp ... 114274.htm

"Chevrons are produced by megatsunamis originating from point sources, i.e. landslides, impact craters, and volcanic explosions. We have assembled data on chevrons worldwide. Most are best explained as the result of tsunami generated from large impact cratering events. We now have data confirming an impact origin of two chevron sources. In the Indian ocean, chevron dunes in Western Australia, India, and Madagascar point towards the 29 km Burckle Crater at 30.865S, 61.365E. …. [O]ther sources are impact crater candidates and require more study. We found the following: … the 10 km Quetzalcoatl crater candidate in the Caribbean at 22.04N, 96.32W, …"

I've tried to find information on the age of the Q Crater, but no luck so far ...

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:54 am
by Mayonaze
Whuups! Something odd going on. I thought the board was down yesterday. Apparently not!

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:16 am
by Minimalist
Yesterday was one of those days, Mayo.

I cleaned up the triplicate posts.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:30 pm
by Mayonaze
Just for yuks, here's a link to a paper written by a couple of college students at Oberlin about recorded meteor strikes on people and property. Kind of makes me want to run when I leave one building to go to the next. :lol:

http://www.oberlin.edu/faculty/bsimonso/group9.htm

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:29 pm
by kbs2244
I am sorry, but when, as a lowly US public high school graduate, I cannot even get through the second sentence of an internet, and therefore computer generated, report, paper, thesis, or whatever they want to call it, with out finding a spelling error, I am, as they say, "out of here".
(How is that for a Pauline sentence ?)
Even if it is meant to be a joke, they owe use the decency of running it through a spelling checker.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:33 pm
by Minimalist
Just awful.

I had a neighbor once, 20 years ago, who was a college professor teaching psych classes at a local college. One day at a barbeque he related how he had stopped giving essay tests because reading the absolute drivel that his students produced was just too infuriating.

The school administration didn't seem to care one way or the other.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:22 pm
by Beagle
http://www.physorg.com/news106410997.html
The period in question is called the Younger Dryas, an interval of abrupt cooling that lasted for about 1,000 years and occurred at the beginning of an inter-glacial warm period. Evidence for the temperature change is recorded in marine sediments and ice cores.

According to the scientists, the comet before fragmentation must have been about four kilometers across, and either exploded in the atmosphere or had fragments hit the Laurentide ice sheet in the northeastern North America.

Wildfires across the continent would have resulted from the fiery impact, killing off vegetation that was the food supply of many of larger mammals like the woolly mammoths, causing them to go extinct.

Since the Clovis people of North America hunted the mammoths as a major source of their food, they too would have been affected by the impact. Their culture eventually died out.
Hot off the press. 8)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:28 pm
by Beagle
http://www.nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_sum ... &from=news

New scientific findings suggest that a large comet may have exploded over North America 12,900 years ago, explaining riddles that scientists have wrestled with for decades, including an abrupt cooling of much of the planet and the extinction of large mammals.
The discovery was made by scientists from the University of California at Santa Barbara and their colleagues. James Kennett, a paleoceanographer at the university, said that the discovery may explain some of the highly debated geologic controversies of recent decades.

The period in question is called the Younger Dryas, an interval of abrupt cooling that lasted for about 1,000 years and occurred at the beginning of an inter-glacial warm period. Evidence for the temperature change is recorded in marine sediments and ice cores.

According to the scientists, the comet before fragmentation must have been about four kilometers across, and either exploded in the atmosphere or had fragments hit the Laurentide ice sheet in northeastern North America.

Wildfires across the continent would have resulted from the fiery impact, killing off vegetation that was the food supply of many of larger mammals like the woolly mammoths, causing them to go extinct.

Since the Clovis people of North America hunted the mammoths as a major source of their food, they too would have been affected by the impact. Their culture eventually died out.

The scientific team visited more than a dozen archaeological sites in North America, where they found high concentrations of iridium, an element that is rare on Earth and is almost exclusively associated with extraterrestrial objects such as comets and meteorites.

They also found metallic microspherules in the comet fragments; these microspherules contained nano-diamonds. The comet also carried carbon molecules called fullerenes (buckyballs), with gases trapped inside that indicated an extraterrestrial origin.

The team concluded that the impact of the comet likely destabilized a large portion of the Laurentide ice sheet, causing a high volume of freshwater to flow into the north Atlantic and Arctic Oceans.

"This, in turn, would have caused a major disruption of the ocean's circulation, leading to a cooler atmosphere and the glaciation of the Younger Dryas period," said Kennett. "We found evidence of the impact as far west as the Santa Barbara Channel Islands."

The National Science Foundation's Paleoclimate Program funded the research.

-- Cheryl Dybas, NSF (703) 292-7734 cdybas@nsf.gov

Investigators
James Kennett


Related Institutions/Organizations
University of California-Santa Barbara


Locations
California


Related Programs
Paleoclimate


Related Awards
#0713769 SGER: Investigations of a Likely Extraterrestrial Impact at 12.9 ka: Possible Cause of Younger Dryas Cooling, North American Mammal Mass Extinction and Demise of Clovis People


Another article, from a week ago. Much easier to read. 8)

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:35 am
by Digit
According to my readings Beag cosmoogists are still uncertain as to the existance of Iridium in comets. Meteorites, yes, comets ?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:27 pm
by Beagle
I'd be interested in whatever your reading Dig. I've never heard that. This article (above) and everything else I've read treats them the same.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:36 pm
by Minimalist
These guys have it reversed. Iridium in comets and 'some' meteors.

Nothing like confusing the issue even more, huh?


http://starryskies.com/articles/2003/04/impact.html
Geologically, it is marked by large levels of Iridium, a very rare chemical on Earth, found mostly at the core. There are however, large amounts of Iridium in comets and some asteroids.

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:53 pm
by Beagle
Cool. Thanks Min. 8)

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:31 pm
by Minimalist
Thanks for what? I just complicated the issue!