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Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:41 pm
by Minimalist
Jawohl.

Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:30 pm
by Digit
He's waving Min!
Roy.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:12 pm
by Minimalist
Really?
I thought The Wave was when you put both hands up?

Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:18 pm
by Digit
No Min, that's when the other guy has a bigger gun than you have!
Roy.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:53 pm
by Minimalist
Ah! French-style.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:53 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:Ah! French-style.
Perhaps, but then that m.o. was copied and improved on your side of the pond!
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:18 pm
by circumspice

I'll second that motion! Michelle?...
[quote="uniface"]
We need a head-bang icon.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:29 pm
by circumspice
Digit wrote:Sorry Min but you're still not with me. I don't give an sh-one-t as to whether Clovis arrived via Mongolia or the Hudson Ferry!
What I'm saying is that the people either developed it from not having any stone tools at all or that they are the result of development from an earlier culture, just as the European Middle Stone Age is a later development of the Early Stone Age.
No culture exists without an antecedent.
Roy.
I disagree... There is always a first "something"...
For instance, there had to be a "first" ape culture, which descendent hominins built upon through time, culminating in subsequent
cultures, which were built upon by succeeding cultures, ad nauseum.
Ya gotta start somewhere!

Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:39 pm
by uniface
Clovis-Solturean was the apex of flintknapping technological development.
There is no way it came out of nowhere, and there is no way it was learned in two weeks' time and traveled by word of mouth across the USA.
If at all interested, read Peoples of the Flute by Bob Patten.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:54 am
by Digit
Ya gotta start somewhere!
That's what I said!
Roy.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:21 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Maybe so, Roy, but Uni posits that Clovis/Solutrean knapping technology was not the start of a technology, but instead a pinnacle of a technology, which therefore cannot have come out of nowhere but would have been developing for, literally, ages leading up to their getting to be that pinnacle of technology.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:21 am
by Digit
Well I wouldn't be prepared to put a time scale to the development RS but I reiterate that nothing so sophisticated can have been achieved overnight.
Roy.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:36 am
by Minimalist
Sounds like you guys are saying the same thing.
Why are you arguing?
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:59 am
by Digit
Beats me!
Roy.
Re: Evolutionary rollercoaster
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:24 am
by Minimalist
Perhaps it is just a natural adaptation?