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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:05 pm
by Beagle
Here in Tennessee we have timber rattlers everywhere. They're nothing to worry about.

But that sucker looks homicidal.

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:15 pm
by Minimalist
I'd carry a flamethrower and wear German officer's boots with those things around.

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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:29 pm
by Beagle
I'd carry a flamethrower and wear German officer's boots with those things around.
And a German goose step seems perfectly appropriate in this case.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:59 am
by Charlie Hatchett
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Hell, I've left my flip flops floating in the water, when I see even a plain water snake...it's amazing how fast you can move when you see something that even resembles a life threatening situation. :shock:


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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:53 am
by stan
I went snorkeling in a blue hole in Florida once. It was...down there with the bass and bluegill, and a transparent ribbon fish swam in front of me,
then a turtle,
when all at once a large brown snake swam toward me on the surface...
now, that inspired terror!

My pal and I thrashed around and got out in a few seconds..then we went over to look at it. It had just started molting, and
it's eye covers were separated from its eyeballs...so It probably couldn't
even see us in the water. I found out later that it was a harmless water snake...but it sure was big!

Another story. A friend of mine had found some artifacts on a creek bank on his property, so we set up a test pit, 5 feet in diameter, with
a string grid over it, and carefully dug down and noted where we found
things....It was a hot July day, and the pit was surrounded by weeds and bushes. I think we dug for about 6 hours. Then about quitting time
someone spotted a copperhead in the bushes about 2 feet away from the pit. More terror. BUt the property owner cut it in two with a shovel.
No telling how long that snake was there, just hiding from us.

I could go on.... :wink:

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:07 am
by DougWeller
Beagle wrote:
I have done some reading on New World monkeys. Genetically there is a report that they must have come from South Africa 12 million ya. Given that the Atlantic ocean was present then - how the hell did that happen?

Have a good day Charlie. :)
Hi Beagle

See this http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 20/10/1620

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:19 am
by stan
Furthermore, the few old primate fossils that do exist are very fragmentary, and it is not clear which lineages they represent (Kay, Ross, and Williams 1997; Gunnell and Miller 2001).
From the link posted above.
I have never thought about this before. Monkeys seem so different from apes....and what about that Tail business!!
...and aren't there some tailed species in asia? :shock:
I am surprised at the small number of fossils....
"I don't know. I just don't know."

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:47 am
by Minimalist
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Walking on water again, Charlie?

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:19 am
by Charlie Hatchett
Walking on water again, Charlie?
Ha!

That's one of my favorite parts of "Tombstone":
Sherman McMasters: Where is he? (Wyatt Earp)
Doc Holliday: Down by the creek, walking on water.
That, and :
Wyatt Earp: Already got a guilty conscience. Might as well have the money, too. Good day, now.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:53 am
by DougWeller
Beagle wrote:
Maybe the peopleing of the Americas can be compared to the several waves of migration to Britain,
I'm not sure that works Stan. During glacial maximums all of Britain was uninhabitable. All fauna had to leave or perish.

That's never been the case in the Americas. Survival simply meant moving a little south.
Agreed. But in Britain, despite the destruction done by the glaciers, on just part of what is a small island we have quite a bit of evidence for ancestors of HSS. There should be a lot more on 2 continents if they were there in any numbers. Of course, if one or 2 bands came over and died out, we'd never know.

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:30 pm
by Beagle
Firstly - thanks folks - (saves mail)
Secondly- I have lost my temper in this forum before (sorry), and I have promptly apologized.

Not this time.

Right is right, wrong is wrong!

Now, moving on -

Doug, I actually agree with that. I suspect that other peoples have arrived on these shores but have not won the genetic battle. That causes,unfortunatly, a lot of confusion, in the genetic bound community. 8)