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Posted: **Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:57 pm**

I'm ready for some more bad pictures of rocks.

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:27 am**

What I canot agree with the letter is his stereo sound.How someone who all the time is talking about" geological finds "end up with destroying "rich cultural heretage".
For god sake ...they are historical or geological stones?
They cant sit on two chairs and ask for two ends.
If Mr Sam find something will not be wall of the pyramid,will be wall of the temple acording them.This way they can exercise they right to complain forever.
They say" Oh this is important location",from other side if someone have seen from you how much most of them have been caring for this location
all these years will start crying.
Please Ciko send some pictures from Visocica location place for what they have been in care all these years.
Bosnians have every right to care for Visochica in same way how have been case with Greece and Atina,Rome with Italy etc.Visocica is their central focal point,and now is the time to be done.
What is wrong with Mr Sam is that he have his way sucesfuly trought,and they have not for at last 4-50 years,and if they dont get clever another 1000000 years will be little.

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:22 am**

TO DOUG WELLER

http://www.egyptologyblog.co.uk/2006/05/18.html

Barakat had extensive knowledge of the pyramids in Giza and had been recommended for the Bosnian mission by Zahi Hawass, one of the world's foremost Egyptologists

My apologies Doug, I have just become aware that you asked me a question about Zahi Hawass. Here is the source that I was citing. You must decide for yourself if you think the source is credible.

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:36 am**

Are you maybe Saša Janković, who is listed here http://www.piramidasunca.ba/eng/meni/ko ... oloski.htm as a member of the archaelogical comittee of the fondation ? Because his email (stellarchaser@hotmail.com) uses a pseudo identical to yours.

I'm not that guy, so I can't answer your questions. I don't participate on these excavations, although I would like.

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:04 am**

I think I should clear something up. I posted that letter to Unesco not realizing that the reaction would be as strong as it was.

It's important to realize that UNESCO does not have the authority to stop the excavation. If I worded it in a way to imply that - I'm sorry. Your Mr. Sam has been authorized to dig until this fall (September?).

My concern is that he may feel pressured to proceed at a faster pace in order to show some results by that time.

Friends - he is not a professional archaeologist. This worries me and many others. The team that he has assembled has come under great criticism and many people would like to see an independent professional on site.

The history of archaeology has plenty of instances of amateurs that have made discoveries - and in every instance they have come under attack by by mainstream archaeologists.

Please do not worry about the dig being stopped. Also please accept someone to help oversee the excavation if your government feels convinced that it is best. Your Mr. Sam will still be in charge.

Lastly, I have to say that I do not believe there is a 12000 year old pyramid there. A non-scientific poll on a website here shows that 45% of the people polled think that the mountain has been augmented by humans however.

I enjoy the pictures that you send us.

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:20 am**

Friends - he is not a professional archaeologist. This worries me and many others. The team that he has assembled has come under great criticism and many people would like to see an independent professional on site.

ooh man how many times i have to say

Osmanagich did not digg anything on the hill

i dont think he ever touch a spade to digg something on the hill

There is real profesional archeologists and geologist who work there , not osmangich , he is not even in bosnia now he is with his familiy in Houston USA he will come tomorrow

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:47 am**

BEAGLE wrote:Friends - he is not a professional archaeologist. This worries me and many others. The team that he has assembled has come under great criticism and many people would like to see an independent professional on site.

Yes, he is not archeologist, but at the very beginning of the whole affair, before excavations began, Osmanagish sent a letter to Bosnian archeologists asking them to come and help with their expertise. Actually he sent that letter twice, and nobody responded. In many TV interviews here in Bosnia, Osmanagich clearly said that excavations on Visocica are not his private enterprise, but national project in which all field-experts should participate.

BEAGLE wrote: Please do not worry about the dig being stopped. Also please accept someone to help oversee the excavation if your government feels convinced that it is best. Your Mr. Sam will still be in charge.

As I said, Osmanagich is inviting experts to the excavations. Why some archeologists from USA for example don't go there and work on Visocica? They don't have to support Osmanagich's claims, but can see for themselves what is going on there. As Ciko said, Osmanagich doesn't dig; he even doesn't have anything with excavations. There are three archeologists: one Bosnian, one Greek, and from yesterday one from Egypt. Instead of this frenzy about of digging, why some acheologists from USA or elsewhere don't join excavations? It can be only help to see what lies underneath Visochica. Nobody is forbidding to other experts to join the excavations.

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:27 am**

role wrote:To belive is the reason why you are human and not animal

shut up

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:59 am**

Archaeologists have discovered Europe's oldest civilisation, a network of dozens of temples, 2,000 years older than Stonehenge and the Pyramids.

More than 150 gigantic monuments have been located beneath the fields and cities of modern-day Germany, Austria and Slovakia. They were built 7,000 years ago, between 4800BC and 4600BC.

Their discovery, revealed today by The Independent, will revolutionise the study of prehistoric Europe, where an appetite for monumental architecture was thought to have developed later than in Mesopotamia and Egypt.
In all, more than 150 temples have been identified. Constructed of earth and wood, they had ramparts and palisades that stretched for up to half a mile. They were built by a religious people who lived in communal longhouses up to 50 metres long, grouped around substantial villages.

Evidence suggests their economy was based on cattle, sheep, goat and pig farming.

Their civilisation seems to have died out after about 200 years and the recent archaeological discoveries are so new that the temple building culture does not even have a name yet.

Excavations have been taking place over the past few years - and have triggered a re-evaluation of similar, though hitherto mostly undated, complexes identified from aerial photographs throughout central Europe.

Archaeologists are now beginning to suspect that hundreds of these very early monumental religious centres, each up to 150 metres across, were constructed across a 400-mile swath of land in what is now Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and eastern Germany.... why not in BOSNIA too[/b]

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:24 am**

For Archaeologists experts from this post

What an optical lens was doing in ancient Nimrud was then - and remains today - beyond the understanding of orthodox archaeology.

s8int.com/sophis2.html
s8int.com/sophis3.html

......

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:48 am**

Beagle wrote:TO DOUG WELLER

http://www.egyptologyblog.co.uk/2006/05/18.html

Barakat had extensive knowledge of the pyramids in Giza and had been recommended for the Bosnian mission by Zahi Hawass, one of the world's foremost Egyptologists
My apologies Doug, I have just become aware that you asked me a question about Zahi Hawass. Here is the source that I was citing. You must decide for yourself if you think the source is credible.

No problem. There seems to be 2 different stories going around as to why Barakt was there. I don't care which is true but it would be nice to know, and hopefully someone is finding out.
Doug

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:49 am**

Ciko wrote:
Friends - he is not a professional archaeologist. This worries me and many others. The team that he has assembled has come under great criticism and many people would like to see an independent professional on site.

ooh man how many times i have to say

Osmanagich did not digg anything on the hill i dont think he ever touch a spade to digg something on the hill

There is real profesional archeologists and geologist who work there , not osmangich , he is not even in bosnia now he is with his familiy in Houston USA he will come tomorrow

I have seen no evidence of a professional excavation going on. No grids to map the location of finds, no indication anyone is recording stratigraphy as they dig, no suggestion that the soil is being sieved. Maybe all this is going on, but at the rate they are digging or appear to be digging I doubt it.

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:58 am**

zagor wrote:Archaeologists have discovered Europe's oldest civilisation, a network of dozens of temples, 2,000 years older than Stonehenge and the Pyramids.
More than 150 gigantic monuments have been located beneath the fields and cities of modern-day Germany, Austria and Slovakia. They were built 7,000 years ago, between 4800BC and 4600BC.

Their discovery, revealed today by The Independent, will revolutionise the study of prehistoric Europe, where an appetite for monumental architecture was thought to have developed later than in Mesopotamia and Egypt.
In all, more than 150 temples have been identified. Constructed of earth and wood, they had ramparts and palisades that stretched for up to half a mile. They were built by a religious people who lived in communal longhouses up to 50 metres long, grouped around substantial villages.

Evidence suggests their economy was based on cattle, sheep, goat and pig farming.

Their civilisation seems to have died out after about 200 years and the recent archaeological discoveries are so new that the temple building culture does not even have a name yet.

Excavations have been taking place over the past few years - and have triggered a re-evaluation of similar, though hitherto mostly undated, complexes identified from aerial photographs throughout central Europe.

Archaeologists are now beginning to suspect that hundreds of these very early monumental religious centres, each up to 150 metres across, were constructed across a 400-mile swath of land in what is now Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and eastern Germany.... why not in BOSNIA too[/b]

This was a one day wonder -- a lot of hype. These circular ditches had been known for years before this article was published last year, and they range from 20 to 150 metres in diameter. No one knows what they were used for. They may have been places of worship, they may have been market places.

See
http://tinyurl.com/cqler

Nothing to do with pyramids.

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:09 am**

stellarchaser wrote: Yes, he is not archeologist, but at the very beginning of the whole affair, before excavations began, Osmanagish sent a letter to Bosnian archeologists asking them to come and help with their expertise. Actually he sent that letter twice, and nobody responded.

stellarchaser wrote: Why some archeologists from USA for example don't go there and work on Visocica?

I've already explained TWICE why archaeologists can't just drop everything and start digging on someone else's whim.

Is there any chance of actually seeing some common sense in this thread?

Posted: **Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:19 am**

bosnian moon pyramid has eroded much but it still look like a Latin america pyramids

Archaeologica.org

Bosnian pyramids, photos

to Irna

there are three archeologists there

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