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marduk wrote:hes an idiot

"What we are missing here are artifacts"

so like he was expecting to find artifacts in a geological formation

An article about the Bosnian pyramids has been published in "Science". It is:

Bohannon, J., 2006, Mad About Pyramids. Science. vol. 313,
no. 5794, pp. 1718 - 1720, DOI: 10.1126/science.313.5794.1718

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/f ... /5794/1718

Yours,

Paul H.

That link is only good for members of the site, Paul.

SARAJEVO--With the violent 1990s behind them, archaeologists in Bosnia hoped they would receive more support for academic research; instead, they are being pushed aside by amateurs. (Read more.)

That's all that is on the free summary link. It's enough though.

The author sent me a copy because I introduced him to some of the people he quotes.
I didn't introduce him to the person he writes about here:

" The truth is plain, says Stjepan Coric, a Bosnian geologist at the University of Vienna, Austria,who was invited by Osmanagic to examine the site: The stone slabs are nothing more than fractured chunks of sediment called breccia, or the remains of a 7-million-year-old lakebed that was thrust up by natural forces. “This is what gives the mound its angular shape" Coric says."


"He [Osmanagic] says he has sought the help of experts to make “serious scientific argumentation.” One of the first was Amer Smailbegovic, a geophysicist who runs a surveying company and teaches at the International University of Sarajevo. “I noticed that the area has a peculiar triangular-sided feature you don’t see too often in a temperate environment,” says Smailbegovic, who analyzed satellite imagery for Osmanagic. Thermal and radar imaging also made the hill seem “out of the ordinary,” he says. So Smailbegovic wrote to Osmanagic that “there are anomalies present in your area of interest, and you may have something there. I suggest you find yourself an archaeologist and geologist to help you validate the area.” But “the next thing I know,” Smailbegovic says, “there was a headline in the Bosnian papers: Satellite imagery confirms Osmanagic’s discovery of pyramids in Bosnia.” This would prove to be the start of a barrage of “sensationalism,” he says."

"Smailbegovic visited Visoko in April to see the project for himself. “The situation was chaotic,” he says. Osmanagic’s volunteers are digging up the area, but Smailbegovic didn’t see much effort directed at “answering the question of why there are geospatial anomalies in the Visoko valley.” Smailbegovic and other geologists conducted their own field study of the Visoko valley in May and June. He says Osmanagic has ignored their detailed reports, which conclude that natural forces created “the majority of the landscape features” and that “meticulous archaeological work” is needed to determine whether humans had any part in it."

"Osmanagic also says he has uncovered a stone layer that is “the pyramid’s face” on one of the smaller hills. A European archaeologist working in Bosnia who had a look for himself says, “There is a real wall there, but it looks to me like part of a small Middle Age rain reservoir.” The archaeologist, who requested anonymity for fear of losing permission to work in the country, says he is not surprised that diggers have uncovered signs of human occupation: “p
People have been here for mil- lennia.” But after Osmanagic is done with Visoko, “we may never know what was really here,” he says. The real archaeological material is between the surface and the bedrock, he says, “but for a pyramid-hunter, that is just dirt to strip away.”"

And
"Deeper in time, fundamental questions about Neolithic society have sustained one of the few remaining international collaborations in Bosnia. Over the past 4 years, a team led by Kujundzic-Vejzagic and Johannes Müller, an archaeologist at the University of Kiel, Germany, has been exploring a site near the town of Okoliste, 7 km away from the pyramid hunt. It has been identified as part of the Butmir culture, a source of richly decorated pottery and intricate statuettes discovered in 1893. Research on these artifacts and related 7000-year-old dwelling sites could help answer one of the central questions of prehistoric archaeology, says Müller: “How and why did we go from simple, egalitarian societies of small settlements to complex, hierarchical societies with big, dense settlements?”

."..Kujundzic-Vejzagic says she is on the verge of quitting. She says she’s been the target of hate mail from the pro-pyramid movement; no one in government has stepped forward to defend her. If she goes, the entire Butmir project will probably fold

Thanks for this update, Doug.
It's a pretty sad story all around.

i think that illustrates the dangers of wing nut and lunatic archaeology at work. we skeptics took a lot of ridicule inthe beginning but we were right and now we can only watch sadly as evidence of the past is destroyed by a man and his followers pursuing a false agenda.

wehn will the bosnian government come to their senses? has there been any indication that these contrary opinions to Os have reached their hands? what about an update on the activity happening right now. what is going on at the site at present?

Archy - I agree. It only takes one nutcase to put the whole profession under the spotlight. It's good that so many credible archaeologists and institutions are denouncing it for what it is.

stan wrote:Thanks for this update, Doug.
It's a pretty sad story all around.

Dr. Schoch has posted a preliminary report in "The Bosnian Pyramid Phenomenon By Robert M. Schoch, Boston University" at:

http://www.robertschoch.net/Bosnian%20G ... Dowell.htm

Also, an article about the Bosnian pyramids appeared in the August 2006 issue of "Geotimes". The one-page article is;

Sever, M., 2006, Controversial Bosnian "Pyramid". Geotimes. vol. 51, no. 8, p. 38 (August 2006).

This article has not been made available to nonsubscribers yet.

Paul H.

Hey Paul, not trying to influence the thread here, but you're hard to get a response from, so now that you're here, do you see any flaw in the analysis of the Great Pyramid dimensions in article #2 at www.IceAgeCivilizations.com?

(It explains why are the lengths of the royal cubit and the base perimeter of the GP.)

Paul - beware - I got this question too. Everyone gets this question. He's using this board to try to flog his book.........

It needs flogging.

LOL!

In England flog also means "sell". In this case he's giving the book away if you give him your address. Two things on that:

1 - Never give out your address

2 - Is it any wonder he has to give them away?

As Paul H lingers in the shadows.

Oas, I'm trying to see if anyone can find a flaw in the analysis, and so far, not a one, including you, so let's see if Paul H can or can't.