Early American Indians
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:24 pm
I’ve been lurking here for a fortnight reading topics from many pages, and have went to bed with many headaches from excessive reading. I am impressed beyond words with the discussions involving Beagle, Minimalist, Charlie, John, Harriett and even Marduk, who enjoys splashing folks with cold reality but provides very relevant material. I particularly enjoyed the pre-Clovis America discussions and the Clovis/Solutrean Topic with Ken Asplaund.
Beagle on Fri Sep 29, 2006 said: “If we conservatively figure that man has been eating cooked food for one million years, or even half a million years, his facial features have been evolving. The brow ridges are not needed, and neither is all the previous dentition.”
Would you please elaborate some on the “previous dentition” changes attributed to variously evolving races of hominids? My particular interest involves reports of early American native skulls, found in both mounds and ground burials throughout the Ohio Valley areas and all the way to New York State, that have double rows of dentition. The skulls were described as very large, with corresponding skeleton bones of proportional size to the skull, prominent brow ridges and bodacious (double rowed) dentition. Skeleton sizes measured between 8-9’. When exposed to the weather for a few days, the skeletons were reported to turn black and begin to crumble. Some reportedly found on the Six Nations Reservation were said to have remains of red hair, and had smoking pipes of carved bone with a snake motif. What sort of human ancestor had double rows of teeth? Most references are from the early to mid 1800’s, with near zero archeological investigations. Some scientific sorts described them as a pre-Adena people, hence about 1,000 BC.
A few references gleaned from early Ohio County Histories, such as this one: Prehistoric Man and the Indians
At the end of the Colonial period, the number of Indian mounds in Ohio alone was estimated to exceed ten thousand. Ohio Valley Bones: Reality? or Imagination?
Chesterville, Ohio 1829: A near by mound was being used to furnish the material to build a hotel. As they dug into the mounds, the workers dug up a large human skeleton. The local physician examining the skeleton said that the skull could have easily fit over a normal man's head with no difficulty. Another peculiarity of the skeleton was the additional teeth it had compared to modern man.
Seneca Township, Noble County, 1872, in what is now called 'Bates' Mound three skeletons were found. All three skeletons unearthed were at the very least eight feet tall in height with bone structure proportional to their height. Another amazing discovery about these skeletons is that they all had double rows of teeth.
Ashtabula County, 1878. Mounds were excavated on land belonging to Peleg Sweet, a man of large features. In the first mound, they unearthed a skull and jaw, which were of such size that the skull would cover Sweet's head and the jaw could be easily slipped over his face. Excavating further, they discovered these mounds contained the graves estimated between two and three thousand. Many of the skeletons found were of gigantic proportions.
The early Delaware (Lenni Lenape) warriors were said to average around 7’, and even the Creek (Mushogean) warriors of the Southeast routinely exceeded 6’, so the early American natives were a hardy stock, but what of those extra-large natives found in the Northeast with extra dentition? Are they pre-Adena? The Adena were known to burn their dead, not bury them in mounds or cemeteries.
These battlefields must still exist, along with the Graveyard of the Giants near Niagara Falls, so could not be that difficult to examine by qualified scientific personnel using modern forensic equipment.
And this site: Giants and Ancient North American Warfare
Any opinions are appreciated!
Beagle on Fri Sep 29, 2006 said: “If we conservatively figure that man has been eating cooked food for one million years, or even half a million years, his facial features have been evolving. The brow ridges are not needed, and neither is all the previous dentition.”
Would you please elaborate some on the “previous dentition” changes attributed to variously evolving races of hominids? My particular interest involves reports of early American native skulls, found in both mounds and ground burials throughout the Ohio Valley areas and all the way to New York State, that have double rows of dentition. The skulls were described as very large, with corresponding skeleton bones of proportional size to the skull, prominent brow ridges and bodacious (double rowed) dentition. Skeleton sizes measured between 8-9’. When exposed to the weather for a few days, the skeletons were reported to turn black and begin to crumble. Some reportedly found on the Six Nations Reservation were said to have remains of red hair, and had smoking pipes of carved bone with a snake motif. What sort of human ancestor had double rows of teeth? Most references are from the early to mid 1800’s, with near zero archeological investigations. Some scientific sorts described them as a pre-Adena people, hence about 1,000 BC.
A few references gleaned from early Ohio County Histories, such as this one: Prehistoric Man and the Indians
At the end of the Colonial period, the number of Indian mounds in Ohio alone was estimated to exceed ten thousand. Ohio Valley Bones: Reality? or Imagination?
Chesterville, Ohio 1829: A near by mound was being used to furnish the material to build a hotel. As they dug into the mounds, the workers dug up a large human skeleton. The local physician examining the skeleton said that the skull could have easily fit over a normal man's head with no difficulty. Another peculiarity of the skeleton was the additional teeth it had compared to modern man.
Seneca Township, Noble County, 1872, in what is now called 'Bates' Mound three skeletons were found. All three skeletons unearthed were at the very least eight feet tall in height with bone structure proportional to their height. Another amazing discovery about these skeletons is that they all had double rows of teeth.
Ashtabula County, 1878. Mounds were excavated on land belonging to Peleg Sweet, a man of large features. In the first mound, they unearthed a skull and jaw, which were of such size that the skull would cover Sweet's head and the jaw could be easily slipped over his face. Excavating further, they discovered these mounds contained the graves estimated between two and three thousand. Many of the skeletons found were of gigantic proportions.
The early Delaware (Lenni Lenape) warriors were said to average around 7’, and even the Creek (Mushogean) warriors of the Southeast routinely exceeded 6’, so the early American natives were a hardy stock, but what of those extra-large natives found in the Northeast with extra dentition? Are they pre-Adena? The Adena were known to burn their dead, not bury them in mounds or cemeteries.
These battlefields must still exist, along with the Graveyard of the Giants near Niagara Falls, so could not be that difficult to examine by qualified scientific personnel using modern forensic equipment.
And this site: Giants and Ancient North American Warfare
Any opinions are appreciated!
When I re-located those pictures, I'll post them here.
However, when a volcano is dormant one can gather obsidian like crazy, before the gods are angry again! 
