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Northern Olmecs Found?
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:31 pm
by Minimalist
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexi ... ccity.html
MEXICO CITY – A 2,500-year-old city influenced by the Olmecs – often referred to as the “mother culture” of Mesoamerica – has been discovered hundreds of miles away from the Olmecs' Gulf coast territory, archaeologists said.
The remains of Zazacatla are providing insight into the early arrival of advanced civilizations in central Mexico, while also providing lessons about the risks to ruins posed by modern development that now cover much of the ancient city.
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:28 pm
by Beagle
I found an interesting article on the Olmecs that I'll have to look for. I'll check around here.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:31 pm
by Beagle
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16815713/
The Olmecs dominated areas around the Gulf coast states of Veracruz and Tabasco from 1,200 B.C. to about 400 B.C.
Some had speculated that the signs of Olmec influence found at Zazacatla and other areas far from the Gulf coast might suggest Olmec settlements, conquests or missionary sites.
More on the above article: from the News Section
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:40 pm
by stan
Here's one of the artifacts:

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:41 pm
by Beagle
Good lookin' fella.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:46 pm
by Minimalist
The similarites to the head are unmistakable.

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:56 pm
by Beagle
That pic doesn't appear Min.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:56 pm
by Minimalist
Damn. That's what I get for trying to use the thumbnail.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:42 pm
by marduk
Here's one of the artifacts:
ah a fluent spanish speaker
the caption accompanying this picture stated
las esculturas que muestran rasgos de la cultura olmeca son personajes desnudos sentados con las piernas cruzadas y los brazos al frente indico el
which means
characteristic Olmec sculptures are usually seated and naked with their legs crossed and arms to the front
in other words
this is an example of an olmec statue and not a relic from the new site
besides which the newspaper got it wrong anyway
Olmec scultpures usually are characterised by being found at Olmec sites
they do not all have crossed legs and arms to the front and despite what some total cranks who refuse to look at any facts that aren't formed by their personal belief might say
they very rarely look negroid






Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:54 am
by stan
Here's one of the artifacts:
ah a fluent spanish speaker
the caption accompanying this picture stated
Quote:
las esculturas que muestran rasgos de la cultura olmeca son personajes desnudos sentados con las piernas cruzadas y los brazos al frente indico el
which means
characteristic Olmec sculptures are usually seated and naked with their legs crossed and arms to the front
in other words
this is an example of an olmec statue and not a relic from the new site
besides which the newspaper got it wrong anyway
Well, I did my best. i'm always frustrated by these stories with no pictures, so I went googling.
So, Marduk, are there any of these newly discovered zazacatla artifacts pictured online?
Thank you.
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:13 am
by Digit
Rarely doesn't mean never, it means some do!
Translation
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:30 am
by Cognito
las esculturas que muestran rasgos de la cultura olmeca son personajes desnudos sentados con las piernas cruzadas y los brazos al frente indico el
Marduk's translation of espanol is correct. Also, don't be fooled by the beards. Some native americans had facial hair.

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:57 pm
by marduk
are there any of these newly discovered zazacatla artifacts pictured online?
no
but as its a typical Olmec settlement what are you expecting to see
My favourite olmec head is the Alien one
no one mentions that though because it doesnt look like a negro
but the best thing about the olmec heads
is that the olmec didnt make them
funny how many people miss that little detail