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Pokotia Monolith
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:40 am
by Beagle
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_8.htm
The Pokotia monolith was discovered by Bernardo Biados, Freddy Arce, Javier Escalente, Cesar Calisaya, Leocadio Ticlla, Alberto Vasquez, Alvaro Fernholz, Omar Sadud, Paulo Batuani and Rodrigo Velasco on January 4, 2002. This discovery and other research done by these scientist is supported by the Honorable H. Enrique Enrique Toro, President of the Congress of Bolivia.
Originally it was believed that there was an inscription written only on the front legs of the monolith, further research indicated that there was also an inscription on the back of the statue and directly below the left hand of the figure.
The topic is the Pokotia Monolith, but these web sites often link it with the Fuente Magna. We might get to that later but information on the Monolith is labelled CH. 2 and CH.3.
I'll get another url.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:47 am
by Minimalist
Not the greatest picture.........
A close up of the inscription on the back.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:47 am
by Beagle
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Bay/7051/bpokotia.htm
The Pokotia monolith was discovered by Bernardo Biados, Freddy Arce, Javier Escalente, Cesar Calisaya, Leocadio Ticlla, Alberto Vasquez, Alvaro Fernholz, Omar Sadud, Paulo Batuani and Rodrigo Velasco on January 4, 2002. This discovery and other research done by these scientist is supported by the Honorable H. Enrique Enrique Toro, President of the Congress of Bolivia.
Originally it was believed that there was an inscription written only on the front legs of the monolith, further research indicated that there was also an inscription on the back of the statue and directly below the left hand of the figure.
The translation of the monolith was done by Clyde Winters.
The monumental import of this find is staggerring IMO. It suggests that Sumerians were in Bolivia 3500-3000 BC.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:47 am
by Beagle
Wow, thanks Min.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:52 am
by Beagle
This monolith is 2m tall, around 61/2 ft. It was found by an archaeological team
5 yrs. ago about 6.2 miles south of Tiahuanaco, Bolivia. Tiwanaku is also correct spellingwise.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:54 am
by Minimalist
A better resolution photo of the whole thing.[/url]
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:59 am
by Minimalist
You're right about Fuente Magna - they do always seem to be linked.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:00 pm
by Minimalist
Close up of the inscription.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:03 pm
by Beagle
Yeah, I know we'll have to get to it. Here's part of the translation. Sounds exactly like GHs' chapter on Tiwanaku.
" The ideal norm (is this) oracle. (This) oracle (gives) divine decree.Distribute to all humanity (the divine decree). Snare a portion (of the) pure voice. (The oracle to) send forth gladness. Agitate the mouth (of the oracle), to send forth the divination. The diviner speaks good."
"The divine decree to become visible and glisten (from the oracle's own) mouth. Open up the divination. Agitate the oracle (to) send forth (now) wisdom and character. Open (the oracle) to distribute the divine decree (for all it is) lawful and righteous Good. Send forth the sustenance of the pure oracle. Stand upright (Oh oracle) to appear as a witness speaking purity. The oracle (of Putaki) to open (up and) send forth gladness and character".
"(Putaki) speaks (in) true measure, to send forth gladness (for all). Send forth nourish(ment). (The oracle Putaki is) the father of wisdom (and) benefit (for all). (The oracle) to become a visible witness of the diving decree and knowledge. (This) pure oracle speaks the divine decree (and) makes (it) a visible witness (of the deity's power)."
Back after a short break.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:11 pm
by Minimalist
You know....I can see a bowl being transferred from hand to hand and somehow ending up in Bolivia without it necessarily being carried in a Sumerian ship.
But a 6 1/2 foot statue? Uh...not so much. I wonder if anyone has done any work on the stone itself to find out if it is local or not.
I think I'll do a bit of a search on that.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:18 pm
by Beagle
They are both local Min. The Fuente Magna was found by an old farmer in the field back in the 60s. From there it was in a church for many years. It was dismissed outright by the Archaeological system and was largely forgotten.
Now the Pokotia monolith was found by Archaeologists (all the difference).
The monolith and it's inscriptions are irrefutable, but of course the scientific community is looking the other way.
It deserves to be presented in the scientific publications - even if it does threaten evey model that ever existed.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:22 pm
by Beagle
So what were the Sumerians doing in Bolivia in 3500BC?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:25 pm
by Minimalist
Just because they found it there does not mean it was made there. However, your second point seems valid. Even a quick check shows that The Club is giving this one a great big leaving-alone.
They leave it to the Atlantis theory gang and then say....'well, look who believes in it....nut jobs!'
A fairly common tactic for the Club, wouldn't you say?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:33 pm
by Beagle
Of course. Just 10 years ago. (a blip in time) the people that could provide grant money, approve tenure, and give approval for publication, etc, were telling the story.
Their version, period. Today news gets out on the internet. Information cannot be stopped. So these people (the Club) is not in charge of info. like they once were.
Reminds me of what happened to the church after Gutenburg invented the printing press. People going "What? The Bible doesn't say that!".
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:39 pm
by marduk
lol
so you're saying that world mysteries and Clyde Winters homepages are credible sources
the orthodox community didn't leave this alone there was just nothing to see
if you actually saw the inscription that Clyde is claiming is sumerian you'd soon see it isn't
here is sumerian script

Sumerian cuneiform is so called because Cunei is latin for wedge
so its writing done with a wedge shaped stylus
the pokotia inscription isn't wedge shaped and it does look very very indian
obviously you guys havent a clue what sumerian cuneiform actually looks like or you wouldn't have made this schoolboy error
but hey
if it makes you happy to think that this somehow proves the club wrong then you run with it
it makes you two about as credible as a chocolate fireguard but compared to what you're normally saying thats a step up
hahaha
and the fuente magna has been proven to be a fake seven ways from sunday
i'll not even bother telling you why
you have google if you want the truth
but I expect you don't
but you might want to consider the excellent condition its in for a 5000 year old relic that was found in a farmers field in a wet environment
