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Mesoamerican Archaeology
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:04 pm
by Beagle
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070411/sc_ ... ramid_dc_2
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Ancient Mexicans brought human sacrifice victims from hundreds of miles (km) away over centuries to sanctify a pyramid in the oldest city in North America, an archeologist said on Wednesday.
DNA tests on the skeletons of more than 50 victims discovered in 2004 in the Pyramid of the Moon at the Teotihuacan ruins revealed they were from far away Mayan, Pacific or Atlantic coastal cultures.
From Yahoo News.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:33 am
by Beagle
http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Tol ... 18865.html
The grisly find of the buried bones of 24 pre-Hispanic Mexican children may be the first evidence that the ancient Toltec civilisation sacrificed children, an archaeologist studying the remains said.
The bones, dating from 950 AD to 1150 AD and dug up at the Toltecs' former capital Tula, north of present day Mexico City, indicated the children had been decapitated in a group.
TDG
Sacrifices
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:22 am
by Cognito
The bones, dating from 950 AD to 1150 AD and dug up at the Toltecs' former capital Tula, north of present day Mexico City, indicated the children had been decapitated in a group.
That's just not a nice thing to do ... who do you believe they were trying to terrorize?
Re: Sacrifices
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:27 am
by Minimalist
Cognito wrote:The bones, dating from 950 AD to 1150 AD and dug up at the Toltecs' former capital Tula, north of present day Mexico City, indicated the children had been decapitated in a group.
That's just not a nice thing to do ... who do you believe they were trying to terrorize?
Religion is usually happy to terrorize anyone. Even to members it gets the message across.
Religion
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:32 am
by Cognito
Religion is usually happy to terrorize anyone. Even to members it gets the message across.
In other words, bow to our invisible deity or it's off with your children's heads!
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:49 am
by Minimalist
Pretty much.
Religion is about control.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:40 pm
by Digit
That makes politics the new religion!
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:46 pm
by Minimalist
They've usually worked hand in hand.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:49 pm
by Digit
And both organisations seem to be as bent as fiddler's elbow!
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:51 pm
by Minimalist
Good line.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:10 am
by Beagle
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/200 ... copan.html
COPÁN RUINAS, Honduras - A short drive from the main Maya ruins at Copán, a forested hillside holds a cluster of mounds that Peabody Museum archaeologists believe date from near the end of the great Maya civilization that once dominated the region.
On Tuesday (April 17), Peabody Museum director and Bowditch Professor of Central American and Mexican Archaeology and Ethnology William Fash, along with director of the Corpus of Maya Hieroglyphic Inscriptions Program Barbara Fash and two Harvard graduate students, walked the site with Honduran government officials charged with regulating and overseeing archaeological activity in the Central American nation.
The site, called Rastrojón, provides a "before" look at an archaeological site, a bookend in time to compare with the simultaneously soaring and crumbling remains a short distance away in what was once the city center.
From Arch. News
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:33 am
by Forum Monk
Minimalist wrote:
Religion is about control.
Religion is about "self" control. Something that seems greatly lacking in today's world. I doubt, for example, that many of the survivors and families of the Virginia Tech rampage will be thinking of control and fear of invisible dieties as they turn toward their churches and religious leaders for comfort and hope.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:44 am
by kbs2244
Actually, Monk, I don’t think ‘Self Control” became part of religion until Christianity.
There was a lot of “We know more than you, so do what we tell you” in all the organized religions up to then.
After a few years, it found it’s way back into organized Christianity.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:48 am
by Forum Monk
I agree with you KB. Religion always becomes corrupted when it becomes more and more about the organization and government and hierachy of power.
True religion is between man and God and brother and brother.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:00 am
by Beagle
Here in the US and other democratic countries, people are free to decide on their religious affiliation - or none at all. So there is no control. However that has not been historically true and is still not true in many countries.