what if....?

[Rokcet Scientist]

[...]As for ethnic tensions[...]look at the Hutsis and Tu-Tus a decade ago.

That conflict was NOT an ethnic conflict, Realist. Most Hutu's and Tutsi's cannot see whether the Ugandan standing next to them is a Hutu or a Tutsi. They even speak the same languages.
The Ugandan massacre was a SOCIAL conflict: the lower classes – the Hutu's – attacked the upper class: the Tutsi's. Akin to the French revolution. Nothing 'ethnic' to it!

[Guest]

Fair enough-not the way it was portrayed in the contemporary media though.

[Rokcet Scientist]

That, unfortunately, is very true. That conflict was completely misrepresented then, and it still is! I suspect that is because 'ethnic' today is hot, while 'social' is not. I.o.w.: pure hype!

[Minimalist]

Orthodox Jews throw rocks at archaeologists who dig up a tomb.
Fundamentalist Muslims refuse to allow archaeological digs at probable Islamic sites.
American Indians think that every old bone should be turned over to them.
The Catholic Church barred Champollion from publishing any findings which contradicted bible lore.
Fundamentalist Christians were at the forefront of early biblical archaeology in which every rock they found somehow "proved" the bible.


Religion has an inherent interest in masking the truth.

[Guest]

Orthodox Jews throw rocks at archaeologists who dig up a tomb.
Fundamentalist Muslims refuse to allow archaeological digs at probable Islamic sites.

Care to provide links to examples ?

American Indians think that every old bone should be turned over to them.

Because NAGPRA was well and truly hijacked by the PC lobby, desperate for something to assuage their own perceived guilt trip about Indian massacres..which happened before any of their grandparents were even born! That's got NOTHING to do with religion.

The Catholic Church barred Champollion from publishing any findings which contradicted bible lore.

Two HUNDRED years ago-big deal.

Fundamentalist Christians were at the forefront of early biblical archaeology in which every rock they found somehow "proved" the bible.

Again, nearly two hundred years ago. And Hitler set up a specialised SS dept to 'find' archaeology to prove Nazi race theories. Erich von Daniken 'found' evidence to prove his BS theories in the '60s. We've also discussed a guy trying to do the same with a 'pyramid' in Bosnia. What makes you think religion has the monopoly?

Religion has an inherent interest in masking the truth.

And so do people who try to blame everything on religion!

[daybrown]

Saint Ramprasad you are living on, as he put it 200 years ago, "A projected matrix", what we'd call a 3D virtual reality, in which every pixel of reality is rendered by the mind of Kali, just as a computer would do it.

And following Vedic tradition, he repeats that there are a "Myriad Worlds", so you, or someone else, may indeed live to see the forensic tools and ground radar, or whatever to identify every trace of early man. Or anything else. Right down to the ink in your Bible. I dont expect to see that much.

I dont even expect to see people become rational, online or anywhere else.

[Rokcet Scientist]

[...]I dont even expect to see people become rational, online or anywhere else.

ROTFLMAO!!!
Says who...?
A fine example of 'mirroring'!

[daybrown]

The Vedas also say that there are forms created and animated by the divine force, which exist solely as a challenge to the fulfillment of Kharma. The way the Vedas talk about them, they look like cosmic robots, droids, which have no soul, programmed to think and act as they do, like the monsters in a 3D video game. The Vedas call them "Avatars".

Interestingly, so do the video games.

The thing about an Avatar is, that while you may learn from one, you cannot teach an Avatar anything. So- have you learned anything from me? Not that I can see. But I appreciate your challenge.

[Rokcet Scientist]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantra about sums it up.

UUmmmmmmmmmm

[stan]

So, Rokcet, you say db is just chanting her mantra,

and she implies we are droids without souls who are incapable of learning anything, even from her.

She writes:
"there are forms created and animated by the divine force, which exist solely as a challenge to the fulfillment of Kharma. The way the Vedas talk about them, they look like cosmic robots, droids, which have no soul, programmed to think and act as they do, like the monsters in a 3D video game. The Vedas call them "Avatars". "

Well, DB has obviously transcended objective reality, and to her, we are only phantoms on her computer screen, electronic demons in a cosmic debate.
This certainly has been interesting.

Let's talk about archaeology again?[/quote]

[stan]

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[Frank Harrist]

I take back everything I said in her defense. She does seem intelligent, but totally into this "goddess" crap. Another zealot just like Jean Marie only with a different religion. A man-hater with her head up Oprah's ass. Sorry I ever lent her gibberish any credence.

[Rokcet Scientist]

Hey! Every coin has two sides!
Wasn't the Kama Sutra born in the Vedic tradition? See? ;-P