Well Ok, Erectus has 75% of the cranial capacity, ergo 75 IQ on average. But just like us, there are some that are at say 150 IQ, so there'd be some of them at 112 IQ, smart enuf to figure out a boat.
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Spot on there DB! It may be unwelcome news to many but let's be honest about it, 99.9999% of us create damn all!
Progress, in what ever form you wish, is down to just a few people in each generation.
Progress, in what ever form you wish, is down to just a few people in each generation.
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Min, we didn't get an opportunity to discuss this link. Tomorrow, maybe, I'd like to get it in the Neanderthal thread. Good article.Minimalist wrote:And...on the land route....
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/901351.html
The artifacts found in the area of the cave are indicative of behavior patterns of humans who lived about 250,000 years ago, at the time of the Mousterian culture of Neanderthals in Europe.
So far studies have shown the tools of modern man in a much later period, about 170,000 years ago, in Ethiopia. The new findings are of great importance, connecting the earliest modern man to the Carmel Mountains man.
About 2 million years ago, with the movement of Homo erectus ("upright man") to Europe, Neanderthal man, a new species, developed. Prof. Israel Hershkovitz, of the Department of Anatomy and Anthropology at Tel Aviv University and a codirector of the excavations, says Neanderthals were stockier than modern man, with a larger skull and more massive limbs. Another species that developed from Homo erectus from Africa was Homo sapiens ("thinking man") or us. His skull and other physical dimensions were smaller and finer than those of Neanderthal man.
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I regret that I have to disagree with DB on one point though. 75% cranial capacity = 75% IQ. Not a chance, you have people with no obvious brain damage or reduced brain size who are technically idiots.
First people deny a thing, then they belittle it, then they say it was known all along! Von Humboldt
Missing from the equation is white matter, which seems to be there as a buffer against impact. We have no way of knowing how much Erectus or Neanderthal had. I've read that smarter people have higher ratios of gray to white matter.
I remember what we usta call 'water brains', now hydroencephalics, who had enormous heads, but less gray matter. retards.
But whatever the average IQ of Erectus & Neanderthal was, seems reasonable to assume they had bell curves just like we do. It makes you wonder how much genius was lost.
I remember what we usta call 'water brains', now hydroencephalics, who had enormous heads, but less gray matter. retards.
But whatever the average IQ of Erectus & Neanderthal was, seems reasonable to assume they had bell curves just like we do. It makes you wonder how much genius was lost.
Any god watching me hasta be bored, and needs to get a life.
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Wanna start here, Beags?
That will upset the OOA crowd!
"Still," says Hershkovitz, "it is possible that the final development of Homo sapiens happened here, in Israel, outside Africa. If a modern Homo sapiens is found in the layers from 250,000 years ago, he will belong to one of the earliest Homo sapiens population in the world, and possibly the earliest. Then all the theories of the development of modern man will have to be reexamined."
That will upset the OOA crowd!
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
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It's all so confusing now that many experts don't believe the HS evolved directly from Erectus. So we all may have to wait for a long time.I'm still waiting for the experts to tell me where Erectus ends and HSS begins. The size of crania is a purely arbitary measurement that has changed in the past anyway.
