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Where's Terry (Fossil Trader) he should be all over this one!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080408/ap_ ... IyL6xFeQoB

SYDNEY, Australia - Tools dating back at least 35,000 years have been unearthed in a rock shelter in Australia's remote northwest, making it one of the oldest archaeological finds in that part of the country, archaeologists said Monday.

The tools include a piece of flint the size of a small cell phone and hundreds of tiny sharp stones that were used as knives. One local Aboriginal elder saw it as vindication of what his people have said all along — that they have inhabited this land for tens of thousands of years.

Oh....p.s.

Obviously they had boats c 35,000 BC to get there.

Obviously they had boats c 35,000 BC to get there.

Duck!

Ducks don't make tools.

i bet they would if they had thumbs.

Minimalist wrote:Oh....p.s.

Obviously they had boats c 35,000 BC to get there.

http://www.janesoceania.com/australia_a ... index1.htm

Neat article. Australia is always a great topic. It blows the Out of Africa theory out of the water. Evidence of human occupation in Australia and the Sahul goes back to 60,000 BC.

and it is not hard to imagine anatomically modern humans, just like us in thought and ability, constructing bamboo rafts powered by sails woven from leaves.

I have to disagree with this fellow. The Club seems to have a great deal of difficulty imaging those humans building boats!

Where the hell is John?

Minimalist wrote:Oh....p.s.

Obviously they had boats c 35,000 BC to get there.

I they did, they were useless. Evinrude and Mercury weren't exporting to Oz yet.

Useless or not, they got 'em there, and to the Andaman Islands.

Maybe the tools were to make more boats?

Maybe the tools were to make more boats?

That's not too far off the mark. These types of tools were used to work with animal hides, food processing, plant material (for ropes, etc.) and carving wood. I'll bet those tool kits are older than 35kya. And those people just didn't hit the beach and scoot to the interior immediately!

Does OOA mean Out of Australia?

Minimalist wrote:

and it is not hard to imagine anatomically modern humans, just like us in thought and ability, constructing bamboo rafts powered by sails woven from leaves.

I have to disagree with this fellow. The Club seems to have a great deal of difficulty imaging those humans building boats!

Where the hell is John?

Hey Min -

I posted on the "Cave 13B" site.

All -

"More on the world-class Australian swimming team..........

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 02548.html


Now, given the 35k figure, and inland at that,

It would seem that certain "aboriginals"

Had some major cognitive shit together, say,

At 40k,

Minimum.

This is to say, the techne to build seagoing watercraft and

The hunting/gathering techne to survive on "new ground."

Makes me think that not only was there some pretty sophisticated

Communication, but multigenerational sequential communication at that.

Now multiply this potential by

All coastlines,

All crossings."


And I will add this:

To develop that techne pushes

The creation of watercraft probably

To the 100k line or earlier.

And - Ishtar -

It also pushes a highly developed Shamanic culture

To a similar timeline.

In short,

A watercraft diaspora which delivered

A mature shamanic view to Australia.

Now, trick question,

How did that return and expand to the

Continental mainlands?



Yeeesssss?


hoka hey



john

Hmm, perhaps by the Europeans rediscovering Australia by........boat....and thus culturally rediscovering shamanism due to contact.

Or were you thinking something older?

dannan14 wrote:Hmm, perhaps by the Europeans rediscovering Australia by........boat....and thus culturally rediscovering shamanism due to contact.

Or were you thinking something older?

All -

That the Australians could voyage there means that they could also voyage back.

Think about it.

hoka hey


john

Will this help?

http://images.statelibrary.tas.gov.au/F ... 1124852252