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Footprints in the Ash!

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:04 pm
by Minimalist
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic ... in_the_ash
Footprints left in volcanic ash that fell in central Mexico’s Valsequillo Basin about 40,000 years ago are evidence that humans have inhabited the Americas far longer than previously confirmed, a new study suggests.

Analyses of three-dimensional laser scans of the imprints (example at right) confirm their human origin, says Silvia Gonzalez, a geoarchaeologist at Liverpool John Moores University in England.

Whoo-hooo!

Where are Charlie and Chris Hardaker now!

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:24 pm
by Beagle
Oh man! There will be a fight over this, and I sure hope she has her ducks in a row. This is exciting news.

These footprints were supposedly proven to be recent the last I heard. That was at least a year ago.

I'm sure we'll see a reaction very soon.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:40 pm
by Minimalist
I e-mailed it to Charlie.

He's happy.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:41 pm
by Minimalist
Beagle wrote:Oh man! There will be a fight over this, and I sure hope she has her ducks in a row. This is exciting news.

These footprints were supposedly proven to be recent the last I heard. That was at least a year ago.

I'm sure we'll see a reaction very soon.

I thought the complaint was that they were not human footprints but rather marks made by mining equipment. I'll have to check out Hardaker's book and see what he has to say on the subject.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:16 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Beagle wrote:Oh man! There will be a fight over this, and I sure hope she has her ducks in a row. This is exciting news.

These footprints were supposedly proven to be recent the last I heard. That was at least a year ago.

I'm sure we'll see a reaction very soon.
Whaddayathink their strategy will be? Silence? Attack? Dismissal?

OK, so now I firmly predict there are traces of HE to be found in the Toba ash on and around Sumatra. I'll put money on it. HE in the middle of his epic journey to Oz!

By boat!

(Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've succumbed...)




Shit!
That probably belongs in the Old World thread, don't it? But it doesn't! You cannot separate the Old and the New Worlds. They never really were separate!

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:12 pm
by Beagle
Whaddayathink their strategy will be? Silence? Attack? Dismissal?
I found the account of the 2005 article, when this was first proposed by Gonzales. It was said then that the imprints were not of a human foot. So, I hope she has a strong case.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:35 pm
by Minimalist
One can only hope that she does.

Mexico is "New World" R/S.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:20 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:Mexico is "New World" R/S.
But Toba isn't, Min.

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:24 am
by Digit
Best news I 've had since they told me about Santa Claus!

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:27 am
by Digit
(Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've succumbed...)
Nothing wrong with that RS, anybody who's not prepared to change his mind is just plain stubborn, which is this forum's complaint about the establishment.

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:37 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:
(Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've succumbed...)
Nothing wrong with that RS, anybody who's not prepared to change his mind is just plain stubborn, which is this forum's complaint about the establishment.
Thanks Dig, I know. And that makes it a lot easier.

Baja Rock Shelter

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:02 am
by Cognito
Dr. Gonzalez refers to the Baja Rock Shelter site, aged at 40,000bp+

http://pweb.jps.net/~dlaylander/interview.fujita1.htm

Since this site doesn't fit the conventional paradigm and presents problems with regard to the occupants' origin, it is being ignored. So those big animal hunters from Siberia were instead hanging out at the beach, cracking open shells? :roll:

Keep looking for the boats and hematite. 8)

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:12 am
by Minimalist
Question. Was the Gulf of California wet or dry during the LGM?

Golfo de California

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:03 am
by Cognito
Question. Was the Gulf of California wet or dry during the LGM?
Min, you have seen this California map before:

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Although not the Gulf of California, the location is immediately south. The entire Southwest US was very wet and lush during the LGM. At a minimum, Baja annual rainfall would have been greater and the Colorado's flow into the Sea of Cortez tenfold its present volume due to drainage from upstream. The area in question was probably an oasis.

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:58 pm
by Minimalist
I may have seen it but at my age I tend to forget a lot.