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Upsetting the nukeler dating applecart?

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:33 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Afaic this could have been in any of the other sections as well, Michelle...
Nuclear Decay May Vary With Earth-Sun Distance

"We've long thought that nuclear decay rates are constant regardless of ambient conditions (except in a few special cases where beta decay can be influenced by powerful electric fields). So that makes it hard to explain two puzzling experiments from the 1980s that found periodic variations over many years in the decay rates of silicon-32 and radium-226. Now a new analysis of the raw data says that changes in the decay rate are synchronized with each other and with Earth's distance from the sun. The physicists behind this work offer two theories to explain why this might be happening (abstract). First, some theorists think the sun produces a field that changes the value of the fine structure constant on Earth as its distance from the sun varies. That would certainly affect the rate of nuclear decay. Another idea is that the effect is caused by some kind of interaction with the neutrino flux from the sun's interior which also varies with distance. Take your pick. What makes the whole story even more intriguing is that for years physicists have disagreed over the decay rates of several isotopes such as titanium-44, silicon-32, and cesium-137. Perhaps they took their data at different times of the year?"
http://arxivblog.com/?p=596

http://arxiv.org/abs/0808.3283

So how would this apply to archaeological dating technologies you think? Would it at all?

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:16 pm
by Minimalist
Doesn't seem to impact C14 (or, is that C4?) dating at all.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:13 am
by kbs2244
It dosn't say if they did or didn't test C14.
If they didn't it would be intresting to know why not.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:31 am
by Minimalist
Not in that article, I did a search for Silicon 32 half life and found that even when it was announced in the early 80's there was no scientific consensus on what the half life was. I saw ranges from 170 - 101 years. It would seem that they would have to iron that out first before determining if it varied.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:10 pm
by kbs2244
I did a quick search on Carbon 14 dating and felt like Alice looking down the rabbit hole.
A lot of science vs creation stuff.
But everybody seems to agree that you can’t use it past 50,000 BP.
(But I found nobody talking about a comet over NA, or Earth’s orbit.)