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Courtesy of Charlie Hatchett

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:34 pm
by Minimalist
Sam Van Landingham's report on diatoms at Hueyatlaco.

http://cayman.globat.com/~bandstexas.co ... 202008.pdf
Conclusions
All of the proper indicative diatom/cyst fossils associated with the ancient artifacts at Hueyatlaco are present in the correct places (and absent from the places where they should not occur) to be consistent with a Sangamonian Interglacial or older (Illinoian Glacial) age.
Those who would wish to argue against the case for the great antiquity (prior to the Last Ice Age) of humanity in the New World by attacking the veracity of the compelling diatom and chrysophyte evidence have picked the wrong place to make such an argument at Hueyatlaco No other archaeological site in world is associated with such a variety of age diagnostic diatoms and chrysophytes and in such profusion. Moreover, the Valsequillo area has the most complicated non-marine diatomaceous sequence in the world: 22 beds compressed into less than 2 million years and into less than 30 m.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:25 am
by Ishtar
Er ... did he send a translation? :?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:19 pm
by Digit
Yes Ish, that is the translation! :lol:

Roy.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:25 pm
by dannan14
So does this imply that human made artifacts were found in the layer that went back more than 200kya?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:05 pm
by Minimalist
In North America. (Which is a key piece of the puzzle.)

:D


I'm sure Charlie is delighted!

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:15 pm
by Digit
I'll bet!

Roy.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:32 pm
by Minimalist
And 200,000 BC means Homo Erectus and


that



means



BOATS!!!!!

Boats

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:02 pm
by Cognito
And 200,000 BC means Homo Erectus and that means BOATS!!!!!
It could also be Homo sapiens or even Homo antecessor. However, it does mean boats. :D

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:06 pm
by Minimalist
I'm reaching for the Brass Ring on this one, Cogs!

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:16 pm
by dannan14
i think HE makes more sense when folklore is taken into consideration. Yeti, Sasquatch, Chupacabra, Mothman, etc. But of course, we get our beloved boats either way!

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:53 pm
by john
Ishtar wrote:Er ... did he send a translation? :?
Ishtar -

"Attempts have been made to discredit the Hueyatlaco
early man artifacts and their in situ emplacement with such speculations as redeposition
and an inset unconformably into an older section. The biostratigraphy and paleoecology
of these numerous diatoms and cysts negate the likelihood of any redeposition, inset, or
unconformity claims associated with artifact-bearing beds at Hueyatlaco. Those who insist
on maintaining that humanity first arrived in North America during the Last Ice Age
(Wisconsinan) or postglacial times are going to find it more and more difficult, if not impossible, to try to discredit the rapidly growing body of evidence supplied by diatom/
cyst studies and by various investigations which have produced sophisticated and sustained
lithostratigraphical, biostratigraphical, paleoecological, etc. data from the Valsequillo
(Hueyatlaco) region, all of which are in essential agreement with a pre-Wisconsinan (>80,000
yr BP) age for the Hueyatlaco artifacts."


Weirdly enough, when I copied and pasted this quote,

It showed up kinda' like I write.

Cosmic Lines of Occurrence Are Everywhere.

And yes, BOATS!

And yes - much more significantly -

The level of COGNITION

Required to build and navigate boats.

triple hoka hey

john

ps

Charlie, come home. I'll speak for myself.

I always appreciated your iconoclasm.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:07 pm
by Minimalist
We have to finish rehabilitating HNS before we can start on HE, John.... but it seems like a worthwhile project. After all, they survived a pretty tough environment too.

More Cosmic Lines of Occurence

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:10 pm
by john
All - especially Minimalist -

You're gonna love this one.

Boats, Hematite, Cognition.

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_ ... 530C280787


hoka hey

john

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:10 pm
by Minimalist
! And arrows, John.
the first bone arrow head, aged between 65 000 and 62 000 years.


Pushes archery back a bit as well.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:30 pm
by john
Minimalist wrote:! And arrows, John.
the first bone arrow head, aged between 65 000 and 62 000 years.


Pushes archery back a bit as well.
Minimalist -

Arrow points and atlatl points are quite similar...........

Jury's still out, in my opine.


hoka hey

john