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No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:24 pm
by Sam Salmon
A quote from
this article baffles me-these people didn't have tool making material and humped it all the way from present-day Eurolandia?
During question time after the lecture the domestication of reindeer was discussed as the palaeolithic people of Scotland needed something to assist with the transportation of flint from Northern Europe to Scotland.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:57 pm
by JSteen
That caught my eye too. No flint in Britain?? Maybe no flint in Scotland and an assumption that they never went south but just came straight across from Europe?
I'm glad you asked because I'm very curious.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:27 pm
by Minimalist
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:48 pm
by JSteen
so, not a lot of flint in Scotland? Have they found flint tools there that they can say for sure came from elsewhere?
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:56 pm
by Digit
There appears to be something of a contradiction here. The articles states that Doggerland was flooded 9k yrs ago 'when the glaciers melted'.
Fine, but 16k yrs ago Scotland was supposed to be covered in ice!
Roy.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:03 pm
by Minimalist
Maybe the ice only covered the flint....or maybe the ice selectively moved the flint to Britain....along with those stones for Stonehenge?

Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:27 pm
by uniface
Never a serious moment, eh ?
On this side of the globe, tools of Knife River Chalcedony (source in the Dakotas) turn up washed ashore from now-sunken Paleo habitation sites off the Gulf Coast in Texas. Long-range transport and use of high quality chert during the Paleo era here is one of its identifying features.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:46 pm
by Sam Salmon
The article as linked seems to be about a discussion by some amateurs like ourselves-uninformed folks speculating.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:55 pm
by kbs2244
Capitalism sometimes works in strange ways.
I was for a while involved with a company that did real time weighing of product moving along a conveyor belt.
The application we worked on was weighing how much gravel came off a bulk gravel carrying ship.
The ships were coming from Nicaragua to New Orleans to deliver fill at the end of the New Orleans airport main runway.
It was cheaper to bring rocks from Nicaragua then to truck it down from Arkansas and through town.
(There isn’t much stone in Louisiana.)
Of course, this assumes boat commerce.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:51 am
by JSteen
Wait, so the article is saying that Scotland was under ice 16K years ago but these guys followed reindeer herds over the ice to Scotland, bringing their flint tools with them (as they couldn't get Scottish flint because it was under a lot of ice). They dropped the tools for whatever reason and when the ice melted the tools ended up on the ground - to be found today. Is that it? And they know they're 16K old by their style?
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:21 am
by Digit
I doubt Reindeer would live on ice actually.
Roy.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:17 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:I doubt Reindeer would live on ice actually.
Indeed. Reindeer live on halfway thawed permafrost ground and sustain themselves with mosses. Mosses don't grow on ice.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:58 am
by Minimalist
All of which demands the question......why would anyone live on top of a glacier in the first place?
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:25 am
by Digit
So one date or 'tother would seem to be in error Min.
Roy.
Re: No Flint In Paleo Britain?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:11 am
by Minimalist
At the least....