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VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:23 pm
by archaeo
Archaeologists study signs of ancient civilization in Amazon basin
Feb 8, 2010,
Sao Paulo - Brazilian archaeologist Denise Schaan still does not believe in the legendary land El Dorado, although she and her team keep finding signs of an ancient and advanced civilization in the western Amazon basin. The signs point to a people that lived there more than a millennium ago in systematically built settlements with a sophisticated road network.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/scien ... azon-basin

First Ranzi took photographs from a plane. Then the researchers systematically analyzed pictures from Google Earth. Once they had gone through all those images, the Brazilian government made available satellite photographs taken to document and monitor the progressive destruction of the Brazilian rain forest.......Schaan believes only a fraction of the geoglyphs have been discovered so far and that there are probably at least 1,000 more. 'Similar figures certainly exist in areas we haven't searched at all,' she said. The Brazilian researchers still have plenty of questions.....
VIDEOS:
Hundreds of Geoglifos Discovered in the Amazon
http://jqjacobs.net/archaeology/geoglyph.html

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:20 pm
by Minimalist
Perhaps Orellana will finally be rehabilitated?

Even in the 16th century the Club did not like to hear anything which upset their applecart.

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:38 am
by kbs2244
Wow!

Not only are they pretty big, but a whole lot of them and real close together.

There is all kinds of politics involved with these discoveries.
Local “developer” types have been fighting non-Brazilian do gooders that want to save the “pristine, un-touched” rain forest.

This type of stuff proves that the rain forest is “second growth” trees and the area is far from untouched.

Of course, we would never know any of this if it wasn’t for the evil, capitalistic, “deforestation.”

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:10 am
by Minimalist
Trees are your friends, kb.

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:13 pm
by dannan14
kbs2244 wrote:Of course, we would never know any of this if it wasn’t for the evil, capitalistic, “deforestation.”
Ask the people of Haiti (and other islands, many of them in the Carribbean) what they think of the evils of deforestation. The effects are more pronounced on an island, but the destruction of continental forests has major impact on everything and everyone.....especially those folks who live IN the forest. See Fern Gully, Avatar, et al.

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:58 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Ever visited a deforested land? It is the saddest thing you can imagine. I've seen a few. The Cape Verde islands, 800 kilometers west of Dakar, Senegal, in the Atlantic, had the deepest impact on me. 'Cape Verde' means 'Green Cape', because the islands were covered with thick rainforest when discovered by Europeans (Portugese) in the late 15th century. But when steam engines arrived, in the early 19th century, the trees – conveniently on the route from Europe to south America/Caribean, south Africa, Australia, and the Indies – were felled to burn and provide energy for ship propulsion. As a result the 'Green Cape' islands were totally deforested within 50 years, and are now completely barren, rocky, and dusty islands, where the fertile topsoil is blown away into the Atlantic Ocean since there is no flora (living root systems) left to keep it together and 'lock' it in place.

Kinda like Easter Island is today (only it wasn't steam engines that deforested Easter Island, but the Polynesian immigrants/islanders themselves; about 1,000 years ago, half a millennium before the arrival of westerners).

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:57 pm
by archaeo
kbs2244 wrote:... all kinds of politics involved with these discoveries ... “deforestation.”
Indeed, this is ground zero today of the deforestation/settlement advance, like Ohio was in the late 1700s, etc. etc. One placemark I found was the museum for slain conservationist, Chico Mendes.

They really are WOW. But, how to STOP the damage to those remaining pristine???

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:01 pm
by Minimalist
Image


The effects of deforestation on the Haiti/Dominican Republic border. You can guess which side is which.

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:41 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
The effects of daylight robbery on the U.S./Mexican border:

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Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:05 pm
by Minimalist
We need a bigger fence.

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:56 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Minimalist wrote:We need a bigger fence.
...said Khrustyev to Ulbricht in 1961.

...said white South Africans to eachother in 1948.

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:11 pm
by Minimalist
They were trying to keep people in.

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:20 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Khrustyev and Ulbricht, yes. White South Africans, no. They were trying to keep dark skinned, poor, people out. Like the U.S. do. Like Europe does. But we've got a moat. The Med. You don't. That's why you want bigger fences. With automatic machine guns, and raked zones, etc. etc. Mines will be next. Then underground walls. And so on, and so forth. L'histoire se répète. La-di-da...

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:25 pm
by dannan14
Rokcet Scientist wrote:And so on, and so forth. L'histoire se répète. La-di-da...
The border with Mexico is just pork. It serves no purpose other than to make white people "feel" safe. Just like unnecessary security at airports.

Re: VIDEOS: Ancient Civilization in Amazon

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:13 pm
by Minimalist
I've been through this with Rok before. He has no understanding of American domestic politics.