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The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:48 pm
by uniface
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:49 pm
by Minimalist
One way that the Romans grew their empire was by identifying local leaders they could work with, (okay, bribe) to serve their interests. I do agree with the underlying theme of the article. Racism is a relatively modern concept.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:01 pm
by uniface
Uh . . . no.
At least the Bible and the related literature written off as "pseudographia," "apocrypha" &c. contradict that generalisation.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:26 am
by Minimalist
You know that I don't put much stock in the bible.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:45 am
by uniface
A hard point for people to grasp : the category (= "religion") (= unpleasing) you file it under in your head doesn't have any bearing on the factuality (or otherwise) of its content.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:46 pm
by Minimalist
I have no use for the fantastic imaginings of iron age goatherders.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:37 pm
by uniface
Once again, you substitute your mental image of people who were no less intelligent than you are for who they were, condemn your own image as unpleasing, and flush the entire. It's a short-circuit of thought.
Otherwise known as a straw man rebuttal.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:42 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
uniface wrote:Once again, you substitute your mental image of people who were no less intelligent than you are for who they were, condemn your own image as unpleasing, and flush the entire. It's a short-circuit of thought.
2,000 years ago in the middle east there was a beggar/messiah on every street corner, uniface. They were a dime a dozen. There were
thousands of them. The messiah business was a cottage industry.
So not much different from today, only we call them 'politicians' now.
The fact that, of all those beggars/messiahs, JC came out floating on top is pure coincidence.
It could just as easily have been Hassan, Simon, or Bartholomew.
So, yes, people were primitive and backward then.
Just like today.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:58 pm
by Digit
There you have it uni, judgement handed down!
Roy.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:01 pm
by Minimalist
uniface wrote:Once again, you substitute your mental image of people who were no less intelligent than you are for who they were, condemn your own image as unpleasing, and flush the entire. It's a short-circuit of thought.
Otherwise known as a straw man rebuttal.
More impressive if archaeology had not trashed it. How many bible tales have to be debunked before you give up on it?
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:17 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:There you have it uni, judgement handed down!

Shame you don't seem to know the difference between a judgement and an observation, Roy.
Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:40 pm
by uniface
Where dogmas taken as axiomatic are concerned, it can be difficult to tell them apart.

Re: The Ivory Bangle Lady
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:47 pm
by Minimalist
I couldn't agree more.