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Denisova specimen

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:13 pm
by Beagle
Here are some interesting slide photos from Der Spiegel:
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 30,00.html

which include a Neanderthal figure that does not in any way resemble
the Krapina photo:-)
~Maria

> Jack:
>
> Why does one of the links show a picture of a Neandertal from
> Krapina???? Especially since all the articles are claiming it's a
> new species. . . .and the Neandertal looks, um, very human to me!
> Anne G


Here is a link from another forum, most of whom think as I do. This area in eastern asia , I believe, is where we will find the melting pot of Homo Sapien Sapien.

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:39 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Snicker! :twisted:
I just love this! :lol:

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:38 am
by Minimalist
I'm really getting to hate the word "species."

It carries far too much baggage.

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:42 pm
by Digit
This would also suggest a fourth wave of emigration from Africa.
Would it?

Roy.

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:19 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:
This would also suggest a fourth wave of emigration from Africa.
Fourth wave?
Take of the blinders: there have been at least dozens, possibly hundreds!

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:26 pm
by Digit
Or very few, I find the idea that numerous branches of Homo developed in Africa then changed not afterwards somewhat unlikely.

Roy.

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:56 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:Or very few, I find the idea that numerous branches of Homo developed in Africa then changed not afterwards somewhat unlikely.
It's vastly more complex than that, imo: all those waves of homonoïds*, in all those millions of years, left Africa, went into a diaspora, met/caught up with other homonoïds that had left before them, and hybridized/evolved, and those hybrids doubled back and encountered yet more 'new' waves of OOA homonoïds and hybridized/evolved again. Etc. etc. And so forth and so on.

* I include australopithecines now, because I don't see a reason why they wouldn't have left Africa as well, just like the hominids. After all many animal species did too.

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:09 am
by Digit
It's vastly more complex than that, imo: all those waves of homonoïds*, in all those millions of years, left Africa, went into a diaspora, met/caught up with other homonoïds that had left before them, and hybridized/evolved, and those hybrids doubled back and encountered yet more 'new' waves of OOA homonoïds and hybridized/evolved again. Etc. etc. And so forth and so on
That could be completely wrong RS, but using logic as a basis I strongly suspect that it's quite correct.
The Club view seems to be 'Go north young man!' with never a suggestion that some may well have dispersed in other directions.
Min and I discussed this some time ago vis-a-vis the ''ice free channel' into North America, when Min with his usual wit suggested that only one way tickets were on sale!

Roy.

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:05 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Yeah, that ''ice free channel' into North America" story has a high dose of 'Moses parted the Red Sea'... :lol:

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:28 am
by Digit
As no large animals seem to have used the route that would seem to be so.

Roy.

Re: Denisova specimen

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:02 pm
by Minimalist
Animals were told to wait for the "ark."