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BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:50 pm
by Minimalist
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:21 pm
by Johnny
This guy ain't surprising to anyone that's been to the populated areas of the 6th district. If you lived in Waxahatchie or Corsicana, you'd sell out too.
"The top campaign contribution to Barton in 2007-2008 was $23,650 from employees of Nucor Corp. Joe Barton’s net worth was between $32,004 and $130,000 in 2007, according to Barton’s mandated financial disclosure statements." Wonder what that bottom line looked like this year...
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:25 am
by Digit
Living on the coast, as I do, I am, unfortunately only too aware of pollution and so in no way do I attempt to deprecate what has happened in the Gulf, but does the press actually understand the meaning of the word FACT?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dk-matai/ ... 19095.html
Unfortunately I have managed to offend elsewhere with my responce so I'll make none here, but can someone else not see the flaws in this report?
Roy.
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:56 am
by Minimalist
Not too long ago there was a special on Nat Geo or History International ( one of those end-of-the-world things) with some guy who was maintaining that vast releases of methane had caused mass extinctions in the past and would do so again.
Most scientists interviewed rejected him as a crackpot....but there was something about tsunamis.
This report looks like more of the same.
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:07 am
by Digit
The temperature in that cavity can be extremely hot at around 150 degrees celsius or more. The incoming water will be vaporised and turned into steam, creating an enormous force, which could actually lift the Gulf floor.
Matai is quoted as an 'engineer', what type is not mentioned in anything I have seen, so whether that comment is due to him or sloppy reporting I know not, but I would dearly like an explanation as to how sea water at that depth could boil at 150 degrees Celcius. And that is just one unexplained and questionable comment Min.
The problem is people believe this sort of rubbish.
Roy.
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:15 am
by Minimalist
People have been believing rubbish for millenia. It is a well-documented problem.
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:20 am
by Digit
Yep! There's one born every minute Min.
Roy.
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:49 am
by Digit
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:01 pm
by Minimalist
Sounds as if we are going to end up with a bunch of fat bacteria.
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:05 pm
by Digit
Are there any other wells in that location Min?
Roy.
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:40 pm
by Minimalist
The gulf coast is dotted with oil rigs. The problem is that most of them are not a mile down.
I hope you can access this.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-j ... fe-aquatic
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:11 pm
by Digit
I can access it Min but so slowly at this time of the evening here it's pointless.
The reason I asked is this...
The intractable problem is that this methane, located deep in the bowels of the earth, is under tremendous pressure. Experts agree that the pressure that blows the oil into the Gulf waters is estimated to be between 30,000 and 70,000 pounds per square inch (psi). Some speculate that the pressure of the methane at the base of the well head, deep under the ocean floor, may be as high as 100,000 psi -- far too much for current technology to contain. The shutoff valves and safety measures were only built for thousands of psi at best. There is no known device to cap a well with such an ultra high pressure.
... now this has little to do with the depth of the water, if other rigs, standing in a puddle even, are into the same stratum the above post would appear to be rubbish.
Further, have you any record at all of any ship ever being seriously involved in submarine gas bubbles, 'cos I haven't.
And again, if those pressures are not containable I would have thought that the drill bit would currently be orbiting somewhere between the Earth and the Moon!
Roy,
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:30 pm
by Minimalist
Jon Stewart is funnier.
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:05 pm
by dannan14
Digit wrote:Living on the coast, as I do, I am, unfortunately only too aware of pollution and so in no way do I attempt to deprecate what has happened in the Gulf, but does the press actually understand the meaning of the word FACT?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dk-matai/ ... 19095.html
Unfortunately I have managed to offend elsewhere with my responce so I'll make none here, but can someone else not see the flaws in this report?
Roy.
After several billion barrels of oil and billions of cubic feet of gas have been released, the massive cavity beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalise, allowing freezing water to be forced naturally into the huge cavity where the oil and gas once were
This part struck me as odd. i'm under the impression that oil and gas are gathered from layers of porous rock not gigantic underground caverns. Have i got something wrong?
Re: BPs Best Buddy
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:42 pm
by Minimalist
Have i got something wrong?
You and BP but, yeah....I always thought the oil was in the rocks, too.
