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Elephants.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:10 pm
by Digit
I see we now have four species/sub species.

Roy.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:00 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:I see we now have four species/sub species.
I don't.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:27 am
by Digit
You're not a geneticist.

Roy.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:47 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:You're not a geneticist.
What's that got to do with the price of rice?
A geneticist can't see them either.
Now if you had pictures (and he passable eyesight), he might.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:12 am
by Digit
What's that got to do with the price of rice?
What are you smoking now?

Roy.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:45 am
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:
What's that got to do with the price of rice?
What are you smoking now?
Apparently not what you are smoking, because I don't see the 4 kinds of elephants you claim to see. Tell me, Roy, are they pink, by any chance?

:lol:

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:49 am
by Digit
So where does Rice come into it?
Out of curiosity how many species/sub species do you recognise?

Roy.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:24 am
by kbs2244
I don't know the background behind this.
Someone sent it to me.
But I thought It might stir some thoughts on how they got around.

[attachment=0]Underwater elephant.jpg[/attachment]

Note that the tusks are not clipped.
So it may be a wild animal.

The bottom of the PIC is trimmed off.
They are free swimming well above any bottom.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 11:14 am
by Digit
They are apparently excellent swimmers kb and one of the nails in RS's walking to Oz as they are far better long distance swimmers than we are.

Roy.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:25 pm
by Minimalist

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:27 pm
by Digit
It wouldn't be fun if it wasn't would it Min?Image

Roy.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:47 pm
by dannan14
Digit wrote:I see we now have four species/sub species.

Roy.
I thought it was 5?

African Savanna (Loxodonta africana africana)
African Forest (Loxodonta africana cyclotis)

Indian (Elephas maximus indicus)
Sri Lankan (Elephas maximus maximus)
Sumatran (Elephas maximus sumatranus)

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:48 pm
by Minimalist
I guess not.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:18 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
dannan14 wrote:
Digit wrote:I see we now have four species/sub species.

Roy.
I thought it was 5?

African Savanna (Loxodonta africana africana)
African Forest (Loxodonta africana cyclotis)

Indian (Elephas maximus indicus)
Sri Lankan (Elephas maximus maximus)
Sumatran (Elephas maximus sumatranus)
6!
There's also a Borneo/Kalimantan forest elephant.

Re: Elephants.

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:39 pm
by Rokcet Scientist
Digit wrote:They are apparently excellent swimmers kb and one of the nails in RS's walking to Oz as they are far better long distance swimmers than we are.
For swimming to Oz – or anywhere for that matter – you need more than just the ability. You also need the will to go wherever you're swimming to. The swimming Zimbabwean elephants only learnt to swim 30 years ago when their valley was inundated by a dam that created a huge freshwater lake in the north-west. On a few of the hills in that valley – now islands in the lake – grows a fruit the elephants particularly appreciate. They WANT it! So when it's ripening – the elephants know exactly when that is – the elephants swim for miles to the islands to get it. And swim back a few days, maybe a week later, when they've had their fill, and the fruit is all eaten.

Getting to Oz was quite different. It involved salt water and strong tidal currents (both absent in Zimbabwean lakes). And apparently there wasn't a goal that was enticing enough to lure the elephants to, literally, take the plunge, like there is in Zimbabwe.

So it's apples and pears, Roy.