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Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:20 pm
by kbs2244
In investigating other things re: pre-Columbian Europeans in the western hemisphere I came across this guy.
Prof. Vicente Pistilli of Paraguay
He seems able to give pretty good evidence of both Vikings and Templars in Central and South America.
http://users.telenet.be/kenneshugo/Prof ... stilli.htm
http://www.migration-diffusion.info/art ... 009&id=168
http://www.migration-diffusion.info/art ... 011&id=211
Read at your risk.
Not responsible for the modification of long held opinions.
On a related theme....
Does anyone know anything about a lady named Zena Halpern?
Re: Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:29 am
by circumspice
Poorly translated tripe.
Re: Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:58 am
by Minimalist
I went looking for English sites and couldn't find much.
Never a good sign.
Almost as bad as when the only sites carrying something are Abovetopsecret.com and others of the ilk.
Re: Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:19 am
by kbs2244
The guy is a fully tenured, and now retired, Professor of both Engineering and Archeology.
Are we going to ignore his work just because he doesn’t speak English?
Somehow that seems a bit narrow minded, even arrogant.
Aren’t we beyond “It is real until it is published by a white, English speaking, male, major university professor with funding from American WASP based foundations?”
Re: Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:09 pm
by Minimalist
Well it means his ideas have not spread beyond a very narrow range. That Bosnian guy insisted that there were pyramids in Bosnia, too.
Frankly, sounds like a tourist gimmick.
Re: Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:51 pm
by kbs2244
At 80 plus he doesn’t have much to gain from tourism.
BTW,
I have yet to see a science based rebuttal to the Bosnia Pyramid site.
Re: Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:03 am
by Tiompan
Entertaining site about the "pyramids " .
http://irna.lautre.net/
George
Re: Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:53 am
by Minimalist
http://www.robertschoch.net/Bosnian%20G ... Dowell.htm
The geology around Visoko is incredibly rich, and I suggested to Osmanagic that, in lieu of “pyramids,” he might redefine his “Archaeological Park” as a “Geological-Archaeological Park” and focus more on the geology. Visocica Hill (the one dubbed “Pyramid of the Sun”) and Pljesevica (“Pyramid of the Moon”) are composed of layers of sandstone, clay, mudstone, siltstone, and conglomerates apparently deposited in an ancient lake and river system during Miocene times (about 5.3 to 23 million years ago). The rocks have been tilted and bent due to tectonic stresses. The tectonic forces plastically deformed the clays and mudstones, but the sandstones and conglomerates broke into semi-regularly shaped pieces that Osmanagic and his team have excavated in numerous places, interpreting them as “pavements,” “terraces,” “concrete blocks,” “foundation stones,” and so forth. Interestingly, and tellingly, the sizes of the sandstone and conglomerate blocks found are a function of the thickness of the original rock layers. Thin sandstone layers, stressed tectonically, broke into small blocks while thick and durable conglomerate layers broke into massive blocks. This is exactly the pattern expected among natural rock formations. The sandstones also typically preserve various sedimentary and depositional features, such as ripple marks and the traces of ancient burrowing animals. These same rocks are also rich in paleontology. In some of the sandstone layers, and in many of the mudstone layers, I found large accumulations of fossil leaf debris and even some fairly complete Miocene fossil leaves. I believe that the real treasure of Visoko may be a huge fossil biota just waiting to be uncovered, not some imaginary pyramids.
Re: Vikings in Paraguay
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:02 am
by kbs2244
Enough on Bosnia.
That is a whole different diffusion subject.
A little further effort on the Vikings has shown that there is strong evidence of a long pre-Columbian silver mining project far up river.
When the Europeans arrived they were told stories of a “white king with a yellow beard” that still worked the mines.
A Portuguese by the name of Aleixo Garcia seems to be the first to try and find these mines. His journals mention loot but not mines. He got as far a Bolivia before making a escape run back east.
The modern work done investigating the Spanish mines shows they made use of some pre-existing technology at the mines and traveled a well maintained road to get there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleixo_Garcia
http://www.projectparaguay.com/ch1.htm