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Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:46 pm
by hardaker
Hi Everybody,
Great News (for some).
The Valsequillo film is finally available to view for free.

SUPPRESSED: New Evidence of Early Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koYWznEIV50

Been out a week, ~40k hits already.
(If it is kosher, I can send along info where the DVD can be bought; it includes another disc with interviews that did not survive the cut, along with a 20 minute presentation by Mike detailing his modern inset hypothesis.)

Party on!
Chris

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:12 am
by Minimalist
Thanks, Chris. I'll post the link on a few other sites for you.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:32 pm
by Ernie L
Who would ever have imagined that the peopling of America would ever create such passion. Intrigue and skullduggery have already been alleged. I fully expect someday to read about lawsuits, fist fights and maybe even a car torching over the issue. :D

I am having a very hard time with one thing though..The magnified pics of the sand and clay layers were shown..and said to look identical..only to me they looked nothing like each other. The photos of the clay and sand layer(proposed river cut) also clearly showed (to my eyes) two different materials and a definite boundary... Then it was stated that there was no river cut.....the sand and clay layers were the same material..just morphing one into the other.....hmm...I would think if that were so then it would not be quite so black and white..where is the gray ?........I am of course no subject matter expert on things having to do with any of this...just a life long interested by stander so to speak.

The film was fun to watch..I thank you for that.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:47 pm
by dannan14
So was the Valsequillo site covered in Forbidden Archaeology? i would check myself, but i'm in the middle of moving and my books are already packed :(

This video made me think that some of the fantastic arguments in Forbidden may be a bit more plausible. Thanks for posting the link!

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:49 pm
by hardaker
Yes, Cremo covered it; and it was involved in the show, the mysterious origins of man, in the 1990s.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:03 am
by Farpoint
In the video Dr. Waters referred to a drawing of the stratigraphy of the site, is there a recent paper available that details this information?

I have searched Google Scholar.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:15 am
by Minimalist

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:18 am
by Farpoint
Minimalist wrote:You should read Chris' book.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-fir ... 1008236650
When it arrives I will, but, I would like to see the drawing Waters was referring to, directly.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:44 pm
by countrcultur
Hey Guys,

I've just been reading up on this topic. Have the dates for this site been adequately disproved in any way? If not are there theories of origin that go along with these dates/evience? it always made a lot more sense to me that people came north as ice receded or land became ice-free. I think that people may have came from asia at around the same time but it seems like very different populations. There are big cultural and physical gaps between native people along the west coast and the far north and those from the interior. I am half cree myself and have been told that it's always been known that the people on the other side of the mountains are different from us. lol. Reading accounts of the first or early europeans mapping and exploring the west of canada they also noted that cree and blackfoot people didnt like to go beyond the rockies and told stories or wars and clashes with the coastal tribes. It just always seemed likely to me that there were different migrations of very unrelated people. This valsequillo dating and it being south seem to fit this view. So am I way off here? Any help greatly appreciated, thanks.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:35 pm
by Minimalist
So am I way off here?
No, you can't be. With Clovis-First going down for the count ( with its insistence that ALL migration to the new world came via the Bering Land Bridge) we are back to a free for all situation.

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Those ocean currents are intriguing...especially the South Equatorial current from West Africa to South American and into the Carribean.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:08 pm
by Farpoint
I think that the only migration that everyone agrees on is the late arriving Inuits.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:37 am
by Ernie L
Farpoint wrote:I think that the only migration that everyone agrees on is the late arriving Inuits.
yes indeed..real attention hogs those Inuits..always the last to make an entrance !

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:17 am
by kbs2244
Check out the evidence of independent northward and southward migrations the guy in my post “All Around and Through South America” puts forth.

Once you accept the deep water ocean sailing ability it makes a lot of sense.

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:41 pm
by countrcultur
what about valsequillo? is it worth referencing, has it held up?

Re: Valsequillo 2: Revenge of the Diatoms

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:57 pm
by dannan14
hardaker wrote:Yes, Cremo covered it; and it was involved in the show, the mysterious origins of man, in the 1990s.
Thanks Chris! i'll open it back up once i get settled.