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Plesitocene Marine Archaeology

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:42 pm
by E.P. Grondine
http://antiquity.ac.uk/projgall/sakellariou334/

Pleistocene Marine Archaeology: $14,000,000.00 budget.

Impact archaeology: $0,000.00 budget.

Re: Plesitocene Marine Archaeology

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:45 pm
by uniface
Normal.

Re: Plesitocene Marine Archaeology

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:03 pm
by Minimalist
Why do you suppose that is?

Re: Plesitocene Marine Archaeology

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:19 pm
by E.P. Grondine
Minimalist wrote:Why do you suppose that is?
Four reasons come to mind, min.

The first is NASA's David Morrison's early impact hazard estimates, which set the cometary impact hazard at near zero. Morrison formed his estimate based on crater data from the Moon, conveniently forgetting the Moon's nearby large companion, the Earth.

Morrison was a reviewer, and active with septical groups, so when comet and comet fragment impacts were researched, he did his best to stop it, as it conflicted with his "data". In sum, Morrison mistook his analysis for data.

Morrison's low estimates of the impact hazard fit well with NASA's institutional desires, which were and are largely wrapped up with fantasies of an Earth-like Mars and manned flight to Mars. NASA actually viewed and views dealing with the impact hazard as something of a diversion from this.

Third, institutionally, archaeologists have trouble working with a new significant natural phenomenon which they had not worked with before, largely because nothing hit Europe in the last 900 years or so.

Fourth, there is the factor of the psychology of denial. We have seen the devices used to grasp at straws here, and generally, if one examines the response to the Holocene Start Impact Event, one will see the same mechanisms at work.

There are a number of minor factors which I will omit mentioning to keep the focus on the larger factors involved.

What will break this feedback cycle is undeniable geological evidence of recent impacts, which is on its way.

Re: Plesitocene Marine Archaeology

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:53 am
by Minimalist
I certainly hope that Firestone is able to refute the critics of his theory with credible evidence.

Re: Plesitocene Marine Archaeology

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:34 pm
by E.P. Grondine
Minimalist wrote:I certainly hope that Firestone is able to refute the critics of his theory with credible evidence.
Depending on which critics, that has already been done, min.

(By the way, I disagree with Firestone on some details of his hypothesized cometary injection mechanism.)

But since you missed those refutations, min, how would a large hole in the ground do?

Re: Plesitocene Marine Archaeology

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:12 am
by Minimalist
Did Firestone give up on the "the-comet-hit-the-ice-which-melted-hence-no-crater" idea?

Re: Plesitocene Marine Archaeology

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:20 am
by E.P. Grondine
Minimalist wrote:Did Firestone give up on the "the-comet-hit-the-ice-which-melted-hence-no-crater" idea?
Hi min -

Why don't you ask him?

I don't know his current thinking as I've been pretty busy with my own work, and have not corresponded with him recently.

But I do know that the Lloydminster structure is being looked at as being a possible impact bleme. This structure appears to be a rebound that occurred when the ice overlay was blown away. An inverted crater, so to speak.

Once again, would a crater from the impact event change your mind?