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Zahi Hawass
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 7:05 pm
by Minimalist
The state of antiquities in Egypt is a disgrace. Will Morsi bring him back to save history?
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-a ... rals-1.jpg
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:32 am
by kbs2244
“Egyptian tourism, a big piece of the country’s economy, has declined by as much as 50 percent since 2010, raising questions about whether the government will decide that it needs Hawass and his famous face to revive it.”
Tourism is not just a “big Piece” of the economy, it is the biggest part.
So it in not just some Egyptologists that want him back, it ranges from cab drivers and restaurant owners to top tier hotel owners.
He may be a jerk but he is better than anyone else they have found at what he does.
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:44 pm
by Minimalist
You are right, of course, but the Islamic extremists now running the government may not care. Religion seems to thrive on poverty.
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:32 pm
by kbs2244
If there is any place where dissatisfaction with a extreme Islam run government has a chance of getting thrown out by some means I think it is Egypt.
Cairo is just too close to Europe, and the memories are still strong, about the good life it offers.
I do not think the revolutions was so much pro-Islam as it was anti-corruption.
It was started by young, educated, out of work guys against a establishment that wouldn’t let them realize their dreams.
The Islam guys just waited and stepped into the power vacuum.
Those same guys are still young, educated, and out of work.
It is a case of Egyptian “Hope and Change”
And dissatisfaction with the change is leading to a loss of hope.
Not a good situation for those in power.
If Hawass starts bringing back those rich, good looking, well dressed tourists someone is going to start asking “Why not us?”
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:35 pm
by Minimalist
I do not think the revolutions was so much pro-Islam as it was anti-corruption.
How it started and how it ended up are two completely different things.
Everything depends on the army.
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:14 pm
by shawomet
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:21 pm
by Cognito
"I'm traveling the whole world. I'm going to Brazil, going to Argentina at the end of the month, going to Australia, New Zealand, everywhere to promote tourism to Egypt and to bring the tourists back because, I think, I'm the only one who can really bring the tourists back to Egypt," says Zahi Hawass.
You think this guy has an ego, or what?
Zahi believes that a treasure could be found in the Great Pyramid and, of course, it would rest in the tomb of Cheops. The only reason why Egyptologists think Cheops built the Great Pyramid is because of a graffiti inscription. If anything is there at all, be ready for a surprise.
I'm not speculating, just pointing out that nobody knows for certain who built the structure of when it was built. The dates could be off by hundreds of years or more. Further, it has always bothered me that no hieroglyphs have been found inside the pyramid, or am I mistaken? If not, why not?

Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:17 am
by Ernie L
Cognito wrote:"I'm traveling the whole world. I'm going to Brazil, going to Argentina at the end of the month, going to Australia, New Zealand, everywhere to promote tourism to Egypt and to bring the tourists back because, I think, I'm the only one who can really bring the tourists back to Egypt," says Zahi Hawass.
You think this guy has an ego, or what?
Zahi believes that a treasure could be found in the Great Pyramid and, of course, it would rest in the tomb of Cheops. The only reason why Egyptologists think Cheops built the Great Pyramid is because of a graffiti inscription. If anything is there at all, be ready for a surprise.
I'm not speculating, just pointing out that nobody knows for certain who built the structure of when it was built. The dates could be off by hundreds of years or more. Further, it has always bothered me that no hieroglyphs have been found inside the pyramid, or am I mistaken? If not, why not?

What is he going to do about the be-headings ?....this would seem like trying to sell berths on a sinking boat.
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:53 am
by Minimalist
You think this guy has an ego, or what?
Of course he does, and he is arguably right. His is the face of Egyptian tourism. It is meaningless without political stability in the country but if the army succeeds expect to see a Zahi Hawass blitzkrieg about the glories of AE. What else can they do? All those people with economics degrees who make their living by giving camel rides at Giza need to get their livelihoods back.
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:06 am
by uniface
The only reason why Egyptologists think Cheops built the Great Pyramid is because of a graffiti inscription. If anything is there at all, be ready for a surprise.
I'm not speculating, just pointing out that nobody knows for certain who built the structure of when it was built. The dates could be off by hundreds of years or more.
Worse than that. Major "Ancient" Egyptian buildings are precisely datable because the horoscope at the time of their completion is one of their features.
With the use of modern computational methods, it is possible to calculate all of the dates that could correspond to such a horoscope. If other astronomical information is also available from the horoscope (such as the order of the planets or their visibility), it is often possible to eliminate all the dates except one, which is exactly the date of the horoscope.
Round Denderah zodiac - morning of March 20, 1185 A.D.
Long Zodiac - April 22-26, 1168 A.D.
Big Esna zodiac - March 31 - April 3, 1394 A.D.
Small Esna zodiac - May 6-8, 1404 A.D.
http://www.revisedhistory.org/egyptian-horo.php
These are in the same boat with the tobacco & cocaine found in "Ancient" Egyptian mummies. The evidence is beyond honest disputation but nobody wants to "go there" so the whole matter is simply ignored and the official version goes blithely on without it.
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:17 am
by Cognito
Of course he does, and he is arguably right. His is the face of Egyptian tourism.
Yes, you are correct about Zahi's ego. I just find him incredibly annoying with his fat ass pretending to be Indy Jones, hat and all. Maybe I need to go work on my tolerance for self-aggrandized jerks.
Regardless, I would still like to know why there aren't any hieroglyphs in the Great Pyramid. They're all over everything else! If Zahi had built the thing, I would expect to uncover a neon sign with his name telling everyone how great he was.

Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:58 am
by uniface
According to some old accounts, it was originally faced with marble, and extensively written-on.
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:14 pm
by Minimalist
Some of the casing stones are still in place. There is no writing. Others were hauled off after an earthquake and used to build monuments in Cairo. Some have been examined. No hieroglyphs, either.
I recall Hawass standing beside a stele detailing the deeds of a man who he said was the master builder at Giza. Apparently he did not see any irony in the fact that a mid-level manager had an inscription talking about his accomplishments while the guy who allegedly had the whole thing built for him was resting in anonymity.
Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:31 am
by Cognito
Apparently he did not see any irony in the fact that a mid-level manager had an inscription talking about his accomplishments while the guy who allegedly had the whole thing built for him was resting in anonymity.
Manetho, Herodotus and Diodorus Siculus attribute the building of the Great Pyramid to Cheops; however, they were writing about it more than 2,000 years after its construction and relying on local traditions.
It is apparent that Cheops had a necropolis at the Great Pyramid where his name pops up on artifacts more than once, but nothing is evident on the pyramid except one instance of graffiti that basically says, "Friends of Khufu". That's not much different than "Kilroy was here."

Re: Zahi Hawass
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:34 pm
by Minimalist
The Inventory Stele indicates that the GP already existed during Khufu's reign and he merely built some subsidiary structures and fixed the sphinx. Since this is at odds with the story that Egyptology wants told them have called the Inventory Stele a forgery and dismissed it.