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1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:59 pm
by Minimalist
http://www.heritagedaily.com/2016/11/ne ... rce/113191
New evidence found of human activity 1.4 million years ago at the site of Barranco León in Orce
Re: 1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:41 pm
by kbs2244
I have to take these huge time frames with a large dose of salt.
The margin of error is large and the temptations to the headline writer is even larger.
Re: 1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:41 pm
by Minimalist
I'm sure scientists everywhere are quivering in terror because you have doubts!
Re: 1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:30 am
by E.P. Grondine
Nice to see people coming back to life from being stunned.
This new find is no surprise. Here you go, min:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6okoNqmmW4
enjoy
Re: 1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:36 pm
by Minimalist
E.P., I promise I will watch it as soon as I get some time.
(Today was not that day!)
Re: 1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:57 am
by Minimalist
Today was the day.
How are you making out with that whole, Homo Sapiens in Asia, 1 million ybp thing? Getting much traction for it?
Second, and this is a technical observation. Either get a remote control to advance the slides or have someone else doing it for you. It is amazingly distracting for you to keep turning around to advance the slides yourself.
But at least there was no folklore.
Re: 1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:34 am
by E.P. Grondine
Hi min =
As near as I an make out, a large number of physical anthropologists are focusing on the new data from Asia.
The hypothesis of later multi center hominid evolution was not my own development in the field.
Neither was noting the effects of impacts on hominid evolution.
Now the craters are there, the fossils are there.
I just joined the pictures of them together.
Even getting one take of part of this talk was very difficult.
I hope to clean up
Re: 1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:58 pm
by Minimalist
I'm far from convinced that there is that clear a distinction from Erectus (which was found in Asia) to HSS, but for the time being we are stuck with that as a scientific consensus. I suppose it would require an uncontaminated find of Erectus DNA to resolve the issue.
We can hope, can't we?
Re: 1.4 Million YBP in Spain.
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:52 am
by E.P. Grondine
Minimalist wrote:I'm far from convinced that there is that clear a distinction from Erectus (which was found in Asia) to HSS, but for the time being we are stuck with that as a scientific consensus. I suppose it would require an uncontaminated find of Erectus DNA to resolve the issue.
We can hope, can't we?
Hi min -
I need to add here that the concept of "Asia" needs to be clarified.
Sea levels were much lower, and thus there was a litoral that ran from Africa to Arabia to India to what is now the SE Asian archipelago.
The climate was much different as well.
A lot of this area is unexplored for early hominids.