Archaeologica.org

http://www.iras.ucalgary.ca/~volk/sylvia/Kurgans.htm

The Kurgan people were an Indo-European culture existing during the fifth, fourth, and third millennia BC; they lived in northern Europe, from Russia across Germany, and various authorities have mounted a case for them being THE proto-Indo-European culture, from which all Indo-European cultures descend. Other researchers think it likely that later-day Kurgans were the "Sea People" who laid waste to the Holy Land around 1200 BC - traveling south along the Mediterranean in ships, with their women following them in wagons along the shore. The word kurgan means barrow or grave in Slavic and Turkic; Kurgan culture is characterized by pit-graves or barrows, a particular method of burial. They are also called the Pit-grave people, or Barrow people.

Hello Alan, welcome. I hope you don't mind if I went and got a brief explanation of the Kurgan culture for some of us who are not very familiar with them.

There was a time when there was a lot of talk about the PIE folks here in the forum. I'm sure someone can discuss them better than I can though.

Aha! A fellow Arizonan.

Welcome...warm brother.

The most interesting part of that story to me was the mummy reportedly had blond hair. The archaeologist admitted that it might have yellowed after death, but red haired mummies have been found in northwestern China.

And Peru.

Caucasian mummies in China.


http://www.fi.edu/inquirer/mummy.html

Four thousand years ago, a community lived in the Tarim Basin -- in what is now the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China -- in the heart of Asia.

The Tarim Basin people thrived there for at least 1,500 years. There are indications that they survived as a culture even into the second century.

Then they disappeared.

Now their remains are being reclaimed from the sands, and the people of that extinct nation are challenging scientists and scholars to fathom who they may have been, and -- if an answer can be found -- where, in prehistory, they came from.

According to sweeping physical evidence, they were not Chinese. They were not even Asian.

They were Caucasian.

LOL....probably the first useful posting for Al Jazeera.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ ... 44B590.htm

In a find that could turn conventional history on its head, scientists using genetic testing have discovered that Caucasians lived in western China's Tarim Basin a thousand years before East Asians arrived.

alan, I have had the same feeling about Chinese announcements. I suppose that all press releases are written by government agents.

A few years ago they claimed they had dug up an ancient sculptured relief map of china which was precisely accurate.
I don't remember the details, but it was said to have been dug up from a prehistoric geologic period.

I have had the same feeling about Chinese announcements. I suppose that all press releases are written by government agents

you will find that common here in the east andit is not limited to just china. japan, korea among others all do the same thing.

discovery channel had a documentary on about a year or soago about a little town in its western borders that was started by roman soldiers. it was called: rome- lost city of china.

i would have to view it again to give you some details.

the idea of westerners in china is not a new one

that was started by roman soldiers

I think that they were Roman prisoners, captured in battle against the Parthians and then subsequently captured by the Chinese. That was a pretty interesting program.

Seems to be a great discussion going on, but what happened to Alan?

He'll probably show up tomorrow and wonder what he started!

Right.

interesting thing here about blood types. of course you have o and a. then, date of origination argued, you have type b. which apparently came out of india/china maybe 10k bc and migrated quickly to the west. theory is that it was the scythian nomads who carried the bloodline west. then they appparently divided into two. the main population of type b is the middle eastern jews. then you have this northern population, much smaller, and somewhat scattered.

now it gets personal. i'm northern european, danish traceable to 1000 ad on father's side and german/french traceable to 1500 ad on mother's side. and , quite by accident, i discovered that i'm type b negative.

which, needless, to say, makes me very interested in this whole sequence.

where this hooks back is to apparent caucasions living and dying in china maybe 3k-5k bc.

ya?

john

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1 ... 464813G655

Berlin - Archaeologists have unearthed a well-preserved, 2 500-year-old mummy frozen in the snow-capped mountains of Mongolia complete with blond hair, tattoos and a felt hat

Is this the one Alan?

Ramesses II had red hair, too. I recall reading that Seti I also had red hair.




Granted, by the time he died at about 90, he may have been dyeing it...Reagan-like...to think he was conning people into thinking he was younger!