Homo Erectus/Neanderthal in North America?

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:19 pm

Hmmm..you've posted that before. They're from a very poor TV production on early man. Terrible show.

Frank Harrist · Post by **Frank Harrist** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:55 pm

You could throw your loin cloth over her face. Shave her whole body and hide the face she might do in a pinch.......

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:00 pm

Douse the fire in the cave?

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:03 pm

Stay sober?

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:17 pm

how about
keep her as a slave for when the women are out hunting for vegetables and you've got a day off hunting
has its parallel in the modern world too y'know
married men frequently don't marry their mistresses

grunabona246 · Post by **grunabona246** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:41 am

i suppose stating an opinion isn't worth much, but everybody can judge the value for themselves, so i'll state that i think modern europeans have considerable neanderthal dna, and that modern europeans made it to the new world in small numbers at least tens of thousands of years ago, so in that sense neanderthals made it to the new world long ago. many of us are present here in the new world today, of course.

as far as the new world population circa 1500 is concerned, i think all known races contributed to the mix over thousands of years. i'm sure small numbers of immigrants arrived from all points at various times, and interbreeding is inevitable between men and women of all types.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:45 am

when two different species of the same genus mate the offspring is usually infertile
so the chances of anyone today having Neandertahl D.N.A. are non existent
and they have mapped neanderthal D.N.A. and it isn't present in ours
not even a little bit of it

Essan · Post by **Essan** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:55 am

Minimalist wrote:Not all of Europe is cold; Greece, Italy, and Spain are downright balmy.

They are today, but the period we're talking about corresponds roughly with the height of the last Glacial. And even today much of Greece and Italy experience colder winters that the UK, for example

grunabona246 · Post by **grunabona246** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:58 am

marduk wrote:when two different species of the same genus mate the offspring is usually infertile
so the chances of anyone today having Neandertahl D.N.A. are non existent
and they have mapped neanderthal D.N.A. and it isn't present in ours
not even a little bit of it

marduk,

i think you will eventually be in for a real surprise. the mapping is far from completed.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:01 am

i think you will eventually be in for a real surprise. the mapping is far from completed.

and why is that ?

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:10 am

They certainly wouldn't find anything if they didn't complete the mapping process, would they?

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:22 am

ah so youre basing a theory on non existent evidence in the hope that if it appears it will back up your speculation
hmmm
what kind of science is that normally called ?

starts with a "P"

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:25 am

Funny. I thought it was "curiousity" something seriously lacking in "the club."

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:29 am

you start with the facts and then when you have them you arrive at a hypothesis
thats not "the club"
thats just common sense

Post by **Minimalist** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:36 am

The people doing the mapping project have neither asked for the support or involvement of the archaeology club. They are doing it for reasons of their own. Much like Oz in Bosnia, they are going ahead regardless of what you think.

Why are you so afraid they may find something? If they do, I think it opens up marvelous paths for learning. If they find nothing, then it appears that the earlier theory that there was no interbreeding would be correct.

Seems like a win-win to me.