i see no relevance. even in times of famine, food exists. you again look at the tree, or the space where there is no longer a tree, and fail to see the forest.
grunabona246 wrote:i find it difficult to believe this spiritual hunger exists with no possibility of satisfaction.
I used to too. Then I realized that the so-called spirtual hunger that I felt wasn't something that came from me. It was something that was socialized into me. When I stripped that socialization away, I found a perfect jewel that doesn't, and never did, hunger for anything other than exactly what I had, what I have, and what I will have: Nothing. It's more than I can possibly manage.
It's good to be free of such things.
I'm not trying to be contrary or argumentative, just my $0.02 on the matter.
Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal floating dragon that spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? - Sagan
i see no relevance. even in times of famine, food exists. you again look at the tree, or the space where there is no longer a tree, and fail to see the forest.
http://www.answers.com/starvation&r=67
you never heard of this word then because as you say in time of famine food exists. so when theres a famine in africa the fact that there is food in walmart means its ok
try telling that to the millions who have died from it eh
Whenever they needed a tale to fill in a blank, they simply invented it.
again sounds like you are describing evolution and not christinaity.
Try to remember that there is not a single, non-biblical, reference to your boy Jesus.
apply the same standards to sargon or anyone in history and you will see how little reference there is to many in history.
if you notice the last few words in that definition...'by...chance'..
instead of going around the problem, deal with the issue. you and all evolutionists have been caught by marduk's blunder... without avoiding this new problem you have to face, let's see you get out of it logically, concisely, and so on...
don't forget honestly
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apply the same standards to sargon or anyone in history and you will see how little reference there is to many in history.
errr
so suddenly youre an expert on Sargon then
hes mentioned in every other civilisation from his time period in a expanse from egypt in the west to india in the east and as far north as northern anatolia
wanna try for another more credible example
like hmmm
apply the same standards to Abraham
or Moses
or David
or Joshua
or any other fictional biblical character you care to mention
and Arch
there is no Marduk blunder, once again you have managed to misinterpret the factual evidence you were presented with
and everyone here knows it
trying to blame you deficiencies on me is a great honour though so thanks for that
but if i were you i'd blame your deficiencies on your antiquated middle eastern religion
I'm sure marduk will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe we have cuneiform inscriptions about Sargon....not to mention lots of other real Sumerians.
Jesus, though? A complete zero historically, and from a much more recent time.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
I'm sure marduk will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe we have cuneiform inscriptions about Sargon....not to mention lots of other real Sumerians.
youre 95% of the way there
Sargon was an Akkadian which was a Semitic and not Sumerian civilisation. His capital city of Akkad gave its name to his entire culture
we have millions of others about real Sumerian kings including a high king list that dates back to almost 4000bce which is attested to by a several different sciences including but not exclusive to archaeology, physics, and linguistics
once again you have managed to misinterpret the factual evidence
sorry but i didn't mis-represent anything, you posted it there in black and white, you have now labeled evolution as a superstition and you can't wiggle out of it.
so suddenly youre an expert on Sargon then
sargon was an example, one that was dismissed as the only ancient source mentioning him was the Bible until they made a discovery. problem is, non-religious people don't learn from their mistakes here and they keep dismissing the Bible despite the many times it is proven to be an accurate record of what it discusses.
Evolutionists have fossils
no you don't---fossil don't prove evolution, they just prove how easy it is for researchers to manipulate the evidence.
There will never be a discussion that YOU find decent, arch. You are too wedded to your superstitions.
you said
first off, they are not superstitions
I said
superstition definition
A belief, practice, or rite irrationally maintained by ignorance of the laws of nature or by faith in magic or chance.
A fearful or abject state of mind resulting from such ignorance or irrationality.
so i was in fact labelling your religious beliefs as a superstition and everyone has been laughing at you for failing to notice it
sargon was an example, one that was dismissed as the only ancient source mentioning him was the Bible until they made a discovery. problem is, non-religious people don't learn from their mistakes here and they keep dismissing the Bible despite the many times it is proven to be an accurate record of what it discusses.
the finding of the evidence that proved Sargon the greats existence has nothing to do with the bible as he isn't actually mentioned in it
do you want to try for double jeopardy where the scores can really count
do you see the silly error you just made or do you want to now attempt to point out chapter and verse where it mentions Sargon of Akkad so i can really make you look uninformed
once again you have managed to misinterpret the factual evidence
sorry but i didn't mis-represent anything, you posted it there in black and white, you have now labeled evolution as a superstition and you can't wiggle out of it.
Exhibit A:
How my dog Six processes speech: "wah wah wa wah wah wah OUTSIDE wah wah".
Actual speech: Wow, it sure is hot outside today.
Six's reaction: Take me out! Take me out! Take me out! *pant* *pant*
Exhibit B:
How Arch processes text: "wah wah wa wah wah wah CHANCE wah wah".
Actual text: superstition: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance
Arch's reaction: Evolution is superstition! Evolution is superstition! Evolution is superstition! *foam* *foam*
Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal floating dragon that spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? - Sagan
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
so i was in fact labelling your religious beliefs as a superstition and everyone has been laughing at you for failing to notice it
how do you know i didn't just ignore it?
by including the words 'by faith in ....chance' you have now labeled evolution a superstition as it relies on chance andpeople must have faith in chance to believe that evolution actually works.
How Arch processes text
tis is what i expect from people like tj and marduk. not intelligent enough to do anyting but attack. by the way marduk, your 'coastline ' blunder has also cost you.
'they that cry the loudest are guiltiest most of all'
see youre doing it again
the actual quote about your religion goes
A belief, practice, or rite irrationally maintained by ignorance of the laws of nature or by faith in magic or chance.
tis is what i expect from people like tj and marduk. not intelligent enough to do anyting but attack. by the way marduk, your 'coastline ' blunder has also cost you.
what coastline blunder is that then
you mean whe you claimed that submerged buildings off the coast of the black sea are evidence of a global sea level rise
that was your blunder not mine
ahahahahahahahah
tis is what i expect from people like tj and marduk. not intelligent enough to do anyting but attack.
you obviously lack the intelligence or the data to meet that attack
grunabona246 wrote:i find it difficult to believe this spiritual hunger exists with no possibility of satisfaction.
I used to too. Then I realized that the so-called spirtual hunger that I felt wasn't something that came from me. It was something that was socialized into me. When I stripped that socialization away, I found a perfect jewel that doesn't, and never did, hunger for anything other than exactly what I had, what I have, and what I will have: Nothing. It's more than I can possibly manage.
It's good to be free of such things.
I'm not trying to be contrary or argumentative, just my $0.02 on the matter.
I spotted this comment while checking for something else, tj. Seems to fit quite well with your observation.
Every child is naturally born an atheist because this infection called "faith" has to be brainwashed into the spawn, or it would not exist. It is only logical that atheism was around before religion, since we have no evidence that religion was created by anyone but mankind.
Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed.
'they that cry the loudest are guiltiest most of all'
well why don't you stop crying then and tell us in what way the bible is relevant to the reign of Sargon the great like you claimed earlier in this thread ?
