Evolutionary news

Post by **Minimalist** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:57 pm

There's your problem.

ReneDescartes · Post by **ReneDescartes** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:27 am

Fresh from the BBC website .Very usefull information regarding the process of evolution .It seems possible even to reverse it . http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5245950.stm
Science strikes another blow to those clinging desperately to obsolete religious theoriesconcerning the origin of all species .

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:18 am

jurassic park may yet be a reality
as long as you don't mind prehistoric rodents

Post by **Minimalist** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:00 am

the process of evolution .It seems possible even to reverse it .

The creationists are living proof of that.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:43 pm

US researchers have taken a mouse back in time some 500 million years by reversing the process of evolution.

how dothey know it even existed 500 million years ago?

how do they know they have it right? do they have a 500 million year old gene to compare their experiment with?

Until about 500 million years ago, early animals had 13 such Hox genes. Then each gene split into four, making 52 genes.

prove it.

Over the course of evolution, further mutations occurred, and some genes became redundant and disappeared, leading to today's tally in mammals of 39 Hox genes

no proof, just a declatory statement. you have no proof that this is actually happened.

The hybrid gene is not completely identical to the ancient one, but the scientists say it performs essentially the same functions

there you go,it is not the same but they act likeit was. how do they know it perfiorms the same as the ancient one, they don't have the ancient one to compare with and the time frame is purely conjecture.

"What we have done is essentially go back in time to when Hox1 did what Hoxa1 and Hoxb1 do today," said Mario Capecchi, professor of human genetics at the University of Utah School of Medicine

you haven't gone back in time, you have just stayed in the present and confirmed the present not the past.

It gives a real example of how evolution works because we can reverse it

this is new, how does reversing it prove that evolution is true? all you have shown is that you can deconstruct what has been constructed, doesn't prove evolution happened and creation didn't.

Frank Harrist · Post by **Frank Harrist** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:11 pm

"Methinks he doth protest too much!"

ReneDescartes · Post by **ReneDescartes** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:12 pm

Sigh !!!
How many times have we tried to explain to you the very simple basics of evolution .You failed to understand them .Are you willing to accept that over the last thousand years humans have created new breeds of animals which share certain caracteristics ?Like dogs ?You must be aware that different racesof dogs exist ,do you ?Huskies,German shepperds,beagles,cockers,espagneuls,etc,etc.Do you think they just evolved naturally from a wolf ? Well let me tell you those races were created by natural selection (must be a difficult concept for you to have these two words in the same sentence ), by humans who wanted to adapt dog breeds to specific tasks like sheparding,tracking,hunting ,etc .
Also humans have been proven capable to recreate the Auroch ,by selecting bovine races and reverse engineering their genes to reconstitute this animal which was extinct . HUmans selection ,imitating and accelerating the mechanisms of natural selection are responsible for bringing into existence new breeds of vegetables,horses,cattle,birds,etc,etc.Now Arch ,tell me you know all this and accept the reality of it and I will continue my lessons .If not I will not waiste my time anymore .So yes or no .Your choice .

Post by **Minimalist** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:19 pm

I'm betting $5 on "No," Rene.

You can lead a horse's ass to water but you can't make him think.

stan · Post by **stan** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:27 pm

You can lead a horse's ass to water but you can't make him think.

Bob, you ought to copyright this one before someone steals it, unless you stole it yourself!

Frank Harrist · Post by **Frank Harrist** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:35 pm

stan wrote:
You can lead a horse's ass to water but you can't make him think.
Bob, you ought to copyright this one before someone steals it, unless you stole it yourself!

Yeah copywrite that and also make it your sig.

Post by **Minimalist** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:48 pm

I don't think I saw it anywhere.....it just sort of seemed to fit.

But I think I'll leave it in the public domain. There are an awful lot of horse's asses running around loose out there and I only have so much time.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:49 pm

Well let me tell you those races were created by natural selection

by humans --to finish the quote

you can't have it called natural selection if it is being processed by humans. that is not natural selection but manipulation by design or purpose, which means that it canonly be done with outside help thus proving creation not evolution.

do you not think that there were people who explored breeding long before the industrial age?

Also humans have been proven capable to recreate the Auroch ,by selecting bovine races and reverse engineering their genes to reconstitute this animal which was extinct ****

that doesn't prove evolution, only that man has the capibility of figuring out how to manipulate the genes of living things. your desire to have any other theory other than the Bible colors your perception and you see what you want to see.

You can lead a horse's ass to water but you can't make him think.

describes the evolutionist who thinks they are smart when in reality, they are just following blind leads.

Post by **Minimalist** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:44 pm

Actually, arch...it was describing you.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:45 pm

roflmao

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:50 pm

Actually, arch...it was describing you.

how doyou think i came to the point to reject evolution/ i saw that it was impossible, i saw that it was full of conjecture and hypothesis which were incapable of ever being proven true, i saw the excuses and behavior of adherents, the spoiled child mentality of scientists who believe in it along with the arrogance and superiority complex most of them have, i saw the failure to prove their thinking (finches mutating does not prove apes became human nor does it prove evolution, it is a too miniscule example to be broadly applied)

you can't even get the fossil record to support evolution without unprovable declatory statements which have no basis for even being said, because you cannot find any fossils nor transitory species in any time period than the ones that are made up to fit the theory of evolution.

you concoct strange theories like the mass extinctions to explain away the results of the flood and the list can go on. don't accuse me of not thinking as it takes a great amount of thinking to realize that evolution is just poppycock.