Giza

[marduk]

There is a reason the shafts were built. And there must be a reason their existence was hidden.

Air shafts imo
the reason to hide them so as not to give any potential tomb robbers clues as to the location of the chamber and at the same time to not give them any air when they get inside
Its fairly obvious that the pyramids were built from the ground up. I don't think anyone stable has ever refuted that

so the chamber was finished earlier than the shafts were sealed at the upper ends. all that then remained was for them to be sealed at the lower ends when the structure was complete and the chamber used for whatever it was designed for
the simplest answer is often the correct one.
Gantenbrink may simply be wasting his time.
on the other hand
it may be possible that there is a smaller chamber further along the passage behind the metal plate and that it was sealed off as the building was constructed and whatever secret thing was hidden higher up neccesitating the shaft to continue to the outside for ventilation for that area.
withhout dismantling the pyramid i doubt anyones going to find out. its very difficult to get a robot with cutting equipment to open the door from the outside
thats if the E.A.C would even allow it anyway

[Starflower]

Egyptology has always been my favorite subject so I have been following this story since they first started with the robots. Though I would love for there to be hidden rooms in the pyramids, I think I will have to go with marduk, I also believe they are ventilation shafts.

[Minimalist]

Its fairly obvious that the pyramids were built from the ground up. I don't think anyone stable has ever refuted that

I did see a suggestion one time that the pyramid was built by putting the top stone on the ground and building up. When it was finished they tipped it over.

I think that was a joke, though.

[Minimalist]

Air shafts imo

For the 'dead' to breathe?

I doubt the Egyptians were quite that stupid.

Besides, without some sort of fan it would have been a very ineffective 'ventilator.'

[marduk]

For the 'dead' to breathe?

I doubt the Egyptians were quite that stupid.

Besides, without some sort of fan it would have been a very ineffective 'ventilator.'

so you think the dead were the ones who built it
surely you must realise that once the roof was put on each chamber stonemasons would still be working inside to make it look pretty
it doesn't need to be effective, its not deep underground and there wouldn't have been hundreds of people inside
you've been watching too many great escape movies min
or zombie flicks

[Minimalist]

surely you must realise that once the roof was put on each chamber stonemasons would still be working inside to make it look pretty

Excuse me but it doesn't "look pretty." In fact, it has all the ornamentation of a utility conduit.

[marduk]

The entrance passage is entirely of rough dressed granite, none of it polished like the work of the King's Chamber ceiling and the Antechamber, and not like the King's Chamber walls in the Great Pyramid The flaws in it are made good with plaster, much of which is to be seen on tire first roof-stone and all along the side of the roof sometimes half-way across it. This was laid on with a board or trowel, and afterwards painted red like the plastering in the Granite Temple.

http://www.touregypt.net/petrie/c9.html


when did you visit the great pyramid Min ?
recently was it ?

[Minimalist]

I've seen photos....not a hieroglyph to be seen.

One of the great arguments against it being a "tomb and tomb only" if you ask me.

[Beagle]

The shafts are not detectable from the outside of the the pyramid. So since there is no opening to the outside where did they lead to?

Of course that's what ZH and others have been trying to figure out.

[marduk]

because the outer casing stones were the last stones fitted
once the work inside was complete and the air shafts were surplus to requirements
the air shafts aren't the mystery that you think they are
there are people who claim that we don't know how the pyramid was built
wrong
people who claim we couldn't build one with modern technology
wrong
people who claim that we don't really know who built them
wrong
depends on wether youre reading a book by someone whos actually studied it or someone who hasn't

I've seen photos....not a hieroglyph to be seen.

iirc the only Hieroglyphs discovered in the entire structure truned out to have been falsified. It is called the pyramid of Khufu because it was built during his reign and not because he signed it
later pyramids have loads of hieroglyphs in them
http://www.pyramidtextsonline.com/
http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/index.htm
http://touregypt.net/featurestories/pyramidtext.htm

[Minimalist]

Typical orthodox horseshit.

Could it be built by dragging stones up a ramp? Yes.

Could it be built by dragging stones up a ramp in the 17 to 23 year span that orthodox egyptology claims? No.


None of the theories yet presented solve the time problem.

[Minimalist]

later pyramids have loads of hieroglyphs in them

I know that. And most of them are little more than piles of rubble.

Shocking deterioration in building standards, wouldn't you say?


But the 3 greatest monuments are bare of ornamentation which seems totally out of character.

[Beagle]

As Min. mentioned earlier, the idea that the shafts are for ventilation are completly without merit.

Gatenbrink, an engineer, knew that before he built his famous robot. The only possibility that the shafts were for ventilation would depend on a fan to force the movement of air.

[marduk]

Typical orthodox horseshit.
Could it be built by dragging stones up a ramp? Yes.
Could it be built by dragging stones up a ramp in the 17 to 23 year span that orthodox egyptology claims? No.
None of the theories yet presented solve the time problem.

complete crap sorry

[marduk]

As Min. mentioned earlier, the idea that the shafts are for ventilation are completly without merit.

Gatenbrink, an engineer, knew that before he built his famous robot. The only possibility that the shafts were for ventilation would depend on a fan to force the movement of air.

yes he said that if they were used as ventilation after it was built
not while it was being built
youre cherry picking to suit your personal belief which isn't based on anything apart from your misconceptions