Hawass

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:25 pm

"water sleeps, and the enemy is sleepless"

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:19 pm

That a Sumerian proverb?

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:31 pm

Turkish
anyone with Transylvanian roots would know that

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:41 pm

My favorite proverb is Russian:

The church is near,
but the road is icy.
The tavern is far,
but I will walk carefully.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:28 pm

alright mjust so i can get a good handle on who hawass is and what he is doing, and since minimalist is obviously in the opposition corner which may prejudice his response, just what is hawass trying to accomplish? is this director of antiquities position his little kingdom and is it going to take more than a little dynamite to blast him out as directer?

seems he is a control freak and wants to construct egyptian history according to his view which would put him in the company of many ancient egyuptian historians who fashioned the 'correct version' for posterity.

am i close to correct there?

Post by **Minimalist** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:30 pm

I don't have a problem with that description.

He's actually seems to be a very complex fellow.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:20 am

seems he is a control freak and wants to construct egyptian history according to his view which would put him in the company of many ancient egyuptian historians who fashioned the 'correct version' for posterity.
am i close to correct there?

you missed that....
he's a founder member of the E club and a staunch nationalist

Post by **Minimalist** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:19 am

From BrainyQuote.com

We are the only ones who really can care about the preservation Foreigners who come to excavate, maybe some of them care about preservation, but the majority care about discoveries.
--Zahi Hawass

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:24 pm

so he takes the position the majority of koreans take. here in korea only koreans have the knowledge and ability to do anything. all foreigners don't know anything.

doesn't he realize that you need discoveries to have preservation? and what is he trying to preserve? his own style of egyptianhistory?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:36 pm

on pg. 38 in this book, 'Pyramid Quest', schoch presents a Hawass theory on the great pyramid:

"Zahi Hawass... argues that the complexity of the great pyramid's interior resulted from indecision on the part of its builders. Hawass maintains thatthe subterranean chamber was the original burial chamber. Before this underground vault was finished, howeve, the builders decided to construct a new passage upinto the body of the pyramid, then went horizontally to the queen's chamber, which was likewise left unfinished. Changing plans yet again, the builders constructed the grand gallery as an entry way to the larger and even more magnificent burial vault that became the king's chamber."

what do you think? does Hawass still believe this or has he changed his thoery?

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:42 pm

.....and then in the second and third pyramids they went back to the original plan with just one chamber underneath?

I wonder why ole Zahi doesn't do a carbon 14 test on Vyse's 'graffiti?' Do you suppose he's worried that the dates won't match up any better than the first set of C14 tests on the mortar?

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:12 pm

wasn't his stint as head honcho just renewed, picked up, extended or whatever it is they do in that position?

Doesn't look like he's goin anywhere anytime soon.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:54 pm

Do you suppose he's worried that the dates won't match up any better than the first set of C14 tests on the mortar?

well schoch discusses those first dates, and it wasn't done on the ortor per se but the filler they used in making the mud. so even there i am not sure how accurate those dates would be.

i will post them when i get home.

Post by **Minimalist** » Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:08 pm

bandit wrote:wasn't his stint as head honcho just renewed, picked up, extended or whatever it is they do in that position?

Doesn't look like he's goin anywhere anytime soon.

Why shouldn't he be? He's done a great job for Egypt. More people know him than Hosni Mubarak.

As far as the job he has done for science.............

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:39 pm

As far as the job he has done for science

science has a very inflated view of itself.