the dominance of religion in the ancient world

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:20 am

maybe he has given up making those pseudo posts sans links and sources and trying his hand at comedy?

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:32 am

I enjoy a good joke myself!

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:34 am

maybe he has given up making those pseudo posts sans links

need i remind you that I'm still waiting for your links proving that the biblical narrative is older than the sumerian one
you got a big mouth Arch but no evidence to back up the crap that comes out of it

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:38 am

I enjoy a good joke myself!

yes, those posts were good for a chuckle. i see he is getting a bit fiesty.

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:53 am

youre getting forgetful
wheres the links that prove the crap you come out with ?
anyone seen them or are they just figments of your imagination like your faith ?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:57 am

yep, he has taken the bait. wonder if we can land him??

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:23 am

so you don't have the links then ?
hippocrite

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:01 am

why are you angry? i have just been pulling your leg tonight?

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:49 am

i'm just pulling yours

can't you handle it ?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:56 pm

can't you handle it

you obviously couldn't.

anyways, forgetting marduk and getting back to topic, does anyone have a good theory why if archaeologists when faced with reporters attribute everything to religion? it doesn't fit that religion would be the catch all when at a loss for words especially if the archaeologists were non-believers.

why wouldn't they just attribute it to the culture of that time and leave religion in the pack amidst other valid reasons? i thinktoo much reading into is done with a lotof assumptions being made, especially in the written documents because here in the modern world, we have poets who write some nice spiritual stuff yet it is not religious literature.

should we generalize such ancient writings when in reality, it may be the work of one person and no one else held such views? (not talking about those documents we know reflect a general belief)

marduk · Post by **marduk** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:22 pm

i think your claim that archaeologists attribute everything to religion is a generalisation
they actually only attribute religious things to religion

because they are of a religious nature

Starflower · Post by **Starflower** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:07 pm

In the news today:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 38,00.html

I am equating ritual with religious in my mind and thinking why does it have to be? Why a 'bodiless' cemetary? Why not the recycling pit for all broken pottery and statues?

It makes just as much sense to me as to believe they ritually broke all these things then carted them over here for worship service.(sorry I don't have the sarcasm icon)Fresh pottery shards are sharp and I wouldn't carry them any further than I had to.
I actually came up with this idea because at our pottery yard we have a bin for all the breaks and rejects. A brick mason buys them for filler? in his fences he builds. I've seen it done, just don't know how to explain it. I like simple explanations best and hey maybe I'm a genius.(where is that sarcasm icon when I need it

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Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:31 pm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 38,00.html

Cycladic art dates to the third millennium BC, a product of the society which arose in the Aegean islands not long before Minoan Crete and then Mycenaean Greece emerged as Europe’s first literate civilisations. Originally thought rather crude, its figurines — ranging from hand-sized to more than a metre in height — gained stature in the eyes of collectors as the taste for simplicity in modern sculpture developed in the last century.

Interesting article.
Hope you don't mind Starflower - just puttin up a hot link for you.

Post by **Minimalist** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:44 pm

“The rarity of joining pieces, as well as the different degrees of weathering, make clear that they were broken elsewhere and brought, already in fragmentary form, to the exceptionally rich deposit.”

A pottery garbage dump makes sense to me....unless they were praying to the God of Broken Pottery....Ostrakinos.

I've used this analogy before but I can see, 10,000 years from now, archaeologists finding Mount Rushmore and declaring it a monument to our "gods."

Then they will find the foundation of the Snack Bar and Gift Shop and declare it to be the mortuary temple since it clearly dates from the same time period.

Then, one of them will get his PH D when he finds the sewer pipe and concludes that this was where the blood of sacrificial victims was collected and will be afforded FULL MEMBERSHIP in THE Club for making such an outstanding discovery.

All will be well until someone else says that there was no urban center near Mount Rushmore to have carved such a statue so the work must be that of aliens and The CLUB will have a shit fit that some impertinent non-member has dared to question their expertise.

Starflower · Post by **Starflower** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:45 pm

Thanks Beagle

I have really got to get some sleep before I post again. Pretty soon I'm going to start seeing aliens myself